***EVERYTHING We Definitively Know about Classic***

[Christhina-nagrand (Christhina)]

I mean they had 20 servers for just the demo at Blizzcon if I remember correctly.

That is true, but there were a few of them that were very sparsely populated from my very brief and casual observation.

That said, I have no idea what the population cap on each realm was, so it’s hard to draw definitive conclusions. Add to that the fact that the demo was behind a “paywall” of Blizzcon attendance or Virtual Ticket, and I’d suggest player numbers there might not be representative of the final launched version.

[Banjaa-deathwing]

I’d suggest player numbers there might not be representative of the final launched version.

Oh I agree 100% - but, if anything, they’ll be HIGHER - OP was saying he saw 50 servers maximum, and I just don’t think that’ll be accurate.

We shall see in 91 days!

[Christhina-nagrand (Christhina)]

We shall see in 91 days!

That we will!
Look forward to seeing and playing with the entire community here

[Mmoku-tichondrius]

Hey Banjaa

just wanted to let you know that Blizzard has addressed cross faction communication on PvP realms, which will be possible if a horde and alliance character are on each other’s bnet friends lists. But they did say that you will not be able to right click a player of the opposing faction that you see in game and add them to your friends list. They also suggested using the appear offline mode if you don’t want your friends on the opposite faction to know where you are in game.

All this information came from an interview TipsOut did with Classic devs which was posted on YouTube on May 14th. Around the 13:30 timestamp of the interview, this issue is addressed by the developers. So I think you can add this to your list of questions that have been answered.

Thanks!

[Banjaa-deathwing]

Hey Banjaa

just wanted to let you know that Blizzard has addressed cross faction communication on PvP realms, which will be possible if a horde and alliance character are on each other’s bnet friends lists. But they did say that you will not be able to right click a player of the opposing faction that you see in game and add them to your friends list. They also suggested using the appear offline mode if you don’t want your friends on the opposite faction to know where you are in game.

All this information came from an interview TipsOut did with Classic devs which was posted on YouTube on May 14th. Around the 13:30 timestamp of the interview, this issue is addressed by the developers. So I think you can add this to your list of questions that have been answered.

Can you shoot the link? If you can find the link I’ll review and get it updated.

[Mmoku-tichondrius]

Here you go: https://youtu.be/O3b423uqrdo

That should work

[Banjaa-deathwing]

Thanks, I got it added - if I missed it anywhere else in the post let me know, I have a horrid migraine today so I’m trying to read as little as possible.

[Captkaveman-eonar]

This probably has not been answered yet question 16 for devs kind of sums it up, and I didn’t see that it was updated as of the time I’m writing this post.
Basically I was under the impression that we will be able to make three toons starting Aug 12-13ish to preserve character name prior to the release. Also assuming since I haven’t heard otherwise that at that time we will be able to pick a server considering you have to pick a server before you make a toon. My guess is that we wont get a server list untill exactly that time. Is that a safe assumption? Can we confirm that? Assume it at least at this point? Any thoughts?

[Gurgaglug-tichondrius]

They need to not allow CE pets or sell a digital CE for the pets when Classic goes live.

[Siç-malganis]

I got something pretty big, Could you find out answers to these key points about layering and how they affect the authentic Vanilla experience? * I did repeat one point in here but won’t go through the trouble of fixing as it is a strong point.

@Siç-malganis

Some key points about layering, you choose if good or bad for the authentic Vanilla experience. :

1. When you come to a new questing zone and you see the opposing faction making life hard, change layers and continue a long your journey.
2. When farming materials and there are none to be found , change layers and continue a long your journey.
3. When hunting chests, rare spawns etc, HOP LAYERS AND CONTINUE a long your journey.
4. When getting camped because you are a noob, HOP LAYERS, and continue a long your journey.
5. When big world events happen, many layers will be dead. Some might not want to participate in this or might not be in the know and are thus forced to be on a dead layer.
6. When general chat or world chat is going on about alliance coming to org to defeat Thrall and you want in on the fun only to find out when you run there it was all a joke because there is NO ONE AROUND. Oh wait ! INVITE ME TO RAID LAYER!!.. again ZERO immersion. I should be able to LEERROOY into the fight and not ask for an invite to a specific layer.
7. I have seen this on a stream. When you are solo questing and you finally get to the named mob that you have been working towards for what seems like for ever, only to see someone else who is there that needs help too. You party up and the mob VANISHES. “layering”
8. A smooth launch with higher than expected server populations due to the real popularity of Vanilla wow. Causing layering to not go away or for there to be super long ques to log on and or forced server transfers.
9. When the known bridge ganker is doing their normal stuff, change layers and avoid him…
10. When your friend is getting ganked but you are already in a group but are near by and decide to help. Only to find out they are in another layer. “immersion”
11. When the new meta is having layer spies to know where your rival opposing faction guild is at so you can avoid the raid fights entering raids… “immersion”
12. Layer hoping to to get world buffs vs just being in town and getting them. Again “immersion” I would assume this can be stomped out by just making any dropped world buffs go through every layer regardless which layer it was dropped on. But probably has not been thought of.
13. Did I say smooth launch? Cuz I mean, smooth launch amiright?
14. What happens when you think you do, but you don’t backfires in your face and you are stuck with servers that have over 10k active daily players? force 5+k ques and wait for people to log off or force whole ream transfers? Because you promised to remove layering and these are your only two options to avoid changing the core code to help that over population, spawns, nodes, etc.

I have made many edits adding to this, I might add more but this seems to be good enough to make a point.

15. What happens when the majority of the server hops to one layer. The ones that did not are forced to play on dead layers until people re log and or new people log in? Seems like a legit experience.

[Syloria-malygos]

Could you find out answers to these key points about layering

You have listed known problems with layering. These were seen with the old game Firefall. Mark Kern was the old dev lead of Firefall and Vanilla. As he has talked to some people at Bliz to deliver the Nostalrius petition and argue for Classic, and he has very recently talked about potential problems with Layering, I am confident Bliz knows about the problems and intends to assassinate that tech as soon as humanly possible.

[Corners-auchindoun]

" Q: What version of the game will be used?
A: The game will be based on patch 1.12, which launched on August 22, 2006 – shortly before The Burning Crusade."

Wasnt cross realm bgs one of the reasons that started helping to kill off servers?

[Edwardelrik-emerald-dream]

I think cross realm BGs should only be applied if it has to be applied lets say after 10 minutes in queue on your server there isnt a BG then go to queue for cross BG.

[Nechross-eonar-37277 (Nechross)]

FYI, I have created a catalog of exploits and problems with layering here:

Examples of Layering exploits and problems

Many thanks to Venruki, Monkeynews, Staysafe, Asmongold, Cdew, Sodapoppin, Ayle, Frostadamus, TipsOut and other streamers who have recorded the significant exploits and problems that result from layering. Also thanks to everyone who has contributed the below links to this post. If you have any clips to share, please let me know and I will add them! Thanks in advance to Blizzard for their consideration. Layering exploits and problems: [Various Streamers] Gurubashi Chest exploit: [Venruki]…

[Nokama-proudmoore]

they need to release classic before summer is over instead of august 27th thats basically when the school year starts

[Lamrimane-bronzebeard]

Classic I have a feeling is not really aimed at school age folks. It is a throwback asked for by the people that played it. That means people that were probably at least 10yrs (probably 15+) old in 2004 and thus are now 24yr old at a bare minimum. Bit past school age for the launch date to matter in that regard

Not that there may not be new/young players, but I think the vast majority of people interested in Classic are old timers like myself that remember playing the original.

[Nokama-proudmoore]

still why not release it earlier to get more new young players (i’m 16 and didn’t play classic but i want to play it)

also i just want to be able to play it before school starts so i can put more time in lmao

[Lamrimane-bronzebeard]

Very true. Glad you are interested in it. It is WOW, but a very different WOW than current retail version. Blizz has never shown much interest in release versus school dates, only pre holidays (thanksgiving/xmas) for holiday release boost usually.

Hope to see you when it launches!

[Sylveinn-dalaran]

Q: What Version of Alterac Valley will we get?
A: Version 1.12

I need to know what this means. 1.12 says nothing about AV. Was 1.12 before or after they removed a bunch of NPCs and nerfed the rest? Did the lieutenants need to be tanked or at least kited off before or after this patch? Was this patch before or after the summoning of NPCs became impractical? Did BG Marks debut before or after this patch?

These details are what people want when they ask “which version of AV will we get?”

[Banjaa-deathwing]

Q: What Version of Alterac Valley will we get?
A: Version 1.12

I need to know what this means.

These details are what people want when they ask “which version of AV will we get?”

Then Google what 1.12AV was. I’m here to provide basic facts and give people answers - not extrapolate all of the data out for them.