Everyone should have a path to progress to max ilvl gear, EVERYONE!

I can wipe out torghasts current content in 190 gear

I need to test that stuff out haven’t there yet, as I am doing some solo raids before the patch and the gold nerf : /

It has to be so ridiculously tough tho.
Because playing alone is A LOT easier than having to coordinate with others.

So yeah. If it’s ridiculously tough, and am talking tougher than mythic raid, tougher than last boss LFR :stuck_out_tongue:…
yeah, I’m on board.

Wouldn’t that path be mythic raiding?

What you really meant is “I dislike raiding and I want the gear from m+ to shower me once again”

So it will be just like pvp?

Um, there will we rewards for getting higher up. One of them is a mount we can only mount on in Torghast, we can not use any other mounts. So raiders will get first dibs due to how gear is limiting.

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After 6 floors you’ll more than likely never need a mount in torghast

You can also get a mount in torghast just randomly dropped

Raiders get no real advantage here aside from gear making the first few floors easier

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Yes, well we are going to have transmog appearances locked behind it. So I am going to be doing the high floors on at least 4 classes and there are 4 covenants so thats 16 we got to do it, or 4 times with your class switching endgame covenants.

If it’s hard to get, then there should be no reason why it shouldn’t be rewarding then.

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Why would you eyes closed have any bearing on the situation?

I can WQ like a boss. I go as far as normal raids.

One of things I like about WoW is becoming powerful enough to face roll old content BUT it comes with the price knowing that if all content from Hogger to N’zoth were scaled to everyone appropriately, it would serve us better.

The reality though would be why do 3 hour raids? Just to enjoy the scenery? Leveling and questing would be our end game.

Lots of pros and cons.

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People should raid because they enjoy it, not because it’s the only way to progress. Same with any form of content.

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It’s like the magetower was locked behind a certain ilvl, you couldn’t do it without a bear min ilvl, and usually that’s raid gear equivalent. We had to wait patches for world pvp gear to get a little higher to be able to do magetower on some classes, or the right legendaries.

This is coming from someone who got all 36 appearances. Having less time to do so is annoying.

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That mount is for the maw not torghast.

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the same bearing that closing your eyes while walking down the street has.

The individual has chosen to not observe their surroundings.

Yes that’s what I meant. Torghast is in the maw though.

Yeah but we’re discussing issues in A computer game but not walking down a street. Try and stay on topic please.

Yeah and the maw is in world of Warcraft but we don’t refer to it as that we refer to it as it’s name.

Either way you will use that mount in Torghast to get an advantage on alts.

wow,that is alot of writing there to go through.Are they going to have WQ gear i thought they said they were not?