But the WoW that killed EQ isn’t the WoW you claim to want.
Why don’t you just say you have epilepsy or whatever it is instead of making a long drawn out “feel bad for me” post? A guild of 20 deaf people were able to kill Mythic Nzoth. That’s 20 people who cannot speak or hear each other killing an end raid boss which requires a large amount of coordination. People who cannot Mythic raid and DEMAND gear which they don’t need for the content they participate in have no excuse. Also, you being 466 with the amount of free gear including weekly 475 gear from doing a 15, which takes about 30mins once a week, is blaring evidence that you don’t care about having access to end game gear. You care about being given it for free or the absolute minimal effort.
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Classic is NOT raid or Die, you seem to have a false thought that it was.
It wasnt.
Yes, Classics Rare Drops from World Mobs, being BIS, Crafted gear with long Grinds being BIS, that stuff is fine.
Raid Gear is not BIS in classic, you live in a fantasy that it is.
Grinding is fine. The current system is not.
This is absurd, lol I should get the same reward as players doing the hardest content for little to no effort… This reads as pure entitlement from generation participation trophy no thanks. You earn your better stuff just like the rest of us willing to put in the additional effort. Just like real life if you want that bigger prizes you put in the extra effort, we don’t need to dumb the game down anymore then it already has been.
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Personally just more interested in variety. There really isn’t an “end” to the game. Just more stories, more activities, tons of interesting ways to gear and play however suits your fancy.
The content can still be hard, and it would always feel good when they release something to dig our heels into to try and defeat for a great reward (in this case, outside mythic raiding).
I like mythic raiding too, but there is SO much more to this game than that tiny sliver of content, and people who don’t M+/raid/constantly group for content would like to see some really cool stuff thrown their way as well.
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The problem with slower is that to balance it it may be have to be VERY slow. It would have to be so slow people who play the current content are not tempted to take that path.
Patch would come, people move on to higher ilvls, the ones in the slow path are always behind until expansion is over.
The slow path eventually catches up to max ilvl… for two three weeks before next expansion release?
Would you be ok with that?
I guess that’s ok.
Mythic Raiding isnt even the hardest content though?
Being R1 in PVP, Doing 25 keys, these things are MUCH harder than Mythic Raids…
Yet you want them to get the same, or lesser loot then your Mythic raids.
Please point to people saying that it should be for no effort? I think most people here have agreed that a massive time investment is inevitable, some bar of difficulty should be achieved, and some really good things could happen outside mythic/group content.
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lol, well then I guess it’s your task to prove it and argue your case with the devs then. Because right now, you’re just speaking out of your… well, you know.
What percent of players even do end game content? Where are you getting your data? You out there polling every player in the game?
I’d imagine that most people playing the game don’t actually care about this discussion at all. There’s plenty of content to do and plenty of paths to progression.
You can do quite a lot in this game with heroic gear. You can do nearly everything without any raid gear at all. You’re asking them to lower the bar down to your level, so you can feel like you’re at the top. Who actually wants that?
I’d bet your feelings on this matter aren’t shared by many at all. But you’re welcome to prove me wrong.
Now, take the player that does that with zero raids versus someone in full Naxx gear. Is there a bigger difference there compared to the difference between someone in Ny’alotha gear and WQ/solo gear?
Yes a MUCH bigger difference.
Most slots in Naxx still arent even BIS.
They did that with the mage tower. Again, how many people were able to complete it before it could be overgeared?
I’d be fine with the number of difficulties that raiders have to work with now. Now if only forum raiders would stop trying to take away casual content so they would feel more like snowflakes…
You’re delusional.
Yes, it is. Maybe not in MC. In the raids following the raids almost every encounter(minus a few requiring resist) along with every class is 80% raid gear apart from cheese effects that Blizzard overlooked.
Mythic + and Heroic Raids are very attainable for anyone willing to join a guild. Even pugging Mythics is doable which will get you the weekly chest.
Mythic raiding and high end PvP is certainly harder but not beyond reach.
If there was nothing to aspire to the game wouldn’t be as enjoyable.
For the 230971298312789th time, I would argue that this is taking away casual content.
Incorrect.
Bloodvine is crafted and BIS for EVERY SINGLE CASTER.
Still right now TODAY.
Underworld bands, a World Drop Ring, is STILL BIS today for my Lock.
R14 PVP weapons are BIS till Naxx legendary, I could go on all day.
Good things already exist out side of Mythic/Grp content the game is literally littered with casual player content my good ness at the short sightedness of give me everything player base. Time does not equal effort in a direct way, just because I smash my head against the wall for 100 hours straight doesn’t mean I should be rewarded the same as someone that is a more skilled/better player then I am that is able to coordinate with others of similar skill to down harder content. ie we are right back to give me participation trophies no thanks.
There is your entitled elitist attitude that is destroying this game.
MMOS very backbone was TIME Progression.
Having a way to skill skip time is fine.
Having a Skill wall, is NOT.
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