That is definitely a main worry about the success of shadowlands.
They have tried so hard to create a separate casual progression through casual pvp, world quests, renown ilvl boosts etc yet that caps in like ilvl 190
Meanwhile anyone doing m+ will be running around in the world with 226 gear minimum and having a huge amount of damage and health above all those casuals in the open world which will soon start questioning what is the point of that separate casual progression when even at max possible casual ilvl they have half the health of mythic geared players.
Mythic raid or die is gonna be a serious issue, as if people who do mythic dont already have a big enough advantage with our 470 trinkets, azerite etc
Access to high end gear also means alt friendly. Meaning eventually I would have 4-5 tanks, 4-5 healers and a dozen DPS to raid with.
Im someone who raids for the challenge not the gear. If blizzard made raids that didnt drop gear I would still raid. Some people quit heroic raid guilds because they dont get gear, they quit their mains when they dont get gear upgrades⊠the game should not cater to the quitters.
Give me a raid where everyone is scaled to the same ilvl and I will raid everyday.
Really? Did they nerf the great vault without anyone hearing about it? Oh⊠no they didnât? OhâŠ
So what youâre saying is⊠M+ players will be just as geared as they are now in shadowlands? So theyâll be in full mythic quality gear? Just like mythic raiders? Whaaat??? Crazy I knowâŠ
Oh and for the record, I also am not for the sub-heroic end of dungeon loot change⊠but youâre acting like itâs impossible to get gear from M+ which is just flat out wrong.
The front end of M+ gearing got nerfed, the back end of M+ gearing got buffed. Stop spreading misinformation.
This is what kept me playing through the Legion and BfA Pathfinder spitegatea, the fact that via WF/TF I could SLOWLY improve my Main and do some current content. Since there isnât anything like this in Shadowlands FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 8 EXPANSIONS Iâm not pre-ordering and am going to stop playing WoW and spend my ~$240 on some other game. Casuals are never going to take your spot in your content, so thereâs no reason to not give them some form of slow progression. Otherwise why should we continue paying into Daddy Blizzâs pockets??
No, the elitist try-hards didnât like it, most everyone else was just fine with it, they just werenât vocal about it. Sure a casual might have gotten one, rarely two good forges, but they were never going to out gear a raider and took all tier to get an ilevel approaching heroic. The fact that some people couldnât control themselves because there was a tiny chance for a .5% better item shouldnât have been something blizz should have considered.
You are free to enjoy all aspects of the game. You can get all the mounts, pets, mogs and everything else. Everything has its way to achieve the desired item. If you, out of your own free will, decide not to pursue any of those items/achievements, because you do not want to put in the effort, that is your decision.
