Everyone says they want more abilities but

[Garolymar-wyrmrest-accord]

More options is never a bad thing in my opinion. Especially in an RPG. I want lots of different spells that do lots of different things even if their use isn’t always apparent. I don’t get why blizz would ever remove abilities in the first place. honestly I don’t really know of any other company, at least one that I can think of that loves to remove content from their video game.

[Ghorak-laughing-skull]

I’m not sure if you misunderstood, or were just adding to my point. I’m not in favor of removing less optimal choices and declaring that they were illusions.

Mostly, I was just adding to your point.
I’m not in favor of removing stuff, just because it might not be the most optimal thing to use performance-wise, either.

The moment we prioritize pure numbers and performance over design and thematics. That’s when we risk reaching the state when everyone has access to the same things. Everyone can do everything on an equal level.

I will say this, having certain talents that provide multiple functions. Having benefits to both your offense as well as defense, if the talent is designed in a very unique way. Then I would be okay with it not performing as well as other talents on the same row.

[Chroesire-bleeding-hollow (Chroesire)]

If you look at the hunter class with the transition from WoD to Legion, we lost an entire spec. We lost a complete playstyle. And for anyone who might say this, No, the abilities they placed in the MM talents, it feels nothing like the old Survival spec did.

It’s still totally bonkers to me that Blizz elected to entirely remove one of the only 3 ranged physical specs in the game in favor of a 2,349,320th melee spec.

Current survival could have easily been made a fourth spec, instead of just destroying the ranged version. Stupid how they don’t bother doing that when they have new spec ideas.

This would have been a far better approach.

[Crommgar-wyrmrest-accord]

Spot the bad players, just because an ability isn’t part of your main rotation doesn’t mean it isn’t used situationally and impactfully.

In addition to this spot the non-Warlock mains who didn’t do Green Fire during MOP when every single button except like Water Breathing was used. It tested the entire class including situational abilities and that’s what made it challenging, allegedly. I beat it in 2 tries but eh

[Ghorak-laughing-skull]

@Chroesire-bleeding-hollow

It’s still totally bonkers to me that Blizz elected to entirely remove one of the only 3 ranged physical specs in the game in favor of a 2,349,320th melee spec.

They have their vision. Their ideas. We can only try to persuade them towards what we want to see!

@Chroesire-bleeding-hollow

Current survival could have easily been made a fourth spec, instead of just destroying the ranged version. Stupid how they don’t bother doing that when they have new spec ideas.

This would have been a far better approach.

Hint…hint

We need range Survival Hunters back

Been following this thread for a while along with other ones on this hunter forum. Decided to now bring my own contribution over from the EU Hunter forum. Now, we all have our opinions as well as preferences on what we want for this class. If you ask me, the request to revert current M-Survival in favor of a reworked R-Survival spec is unlikely to happen. Nor do I think that reworking either BM or MM to fit it in will have a very successful outcome. In short, R-Survival needs to be the 4th spe…

[Troodrood-zuljin (Troodrood)]

What is “a class”? 100% of players of that class? 20%? Are you really basing this claim on the bottom % of players who have no skills and don’t know how to play beyond using a few buttons over and over again, even if they are usually situationally wrong?

What does it mean to “get by”? Is lucking into carries good enough?

Nothing you have said has any meaning.

[Fury-lethon (Fury)]

I disagree with this. Situational abilities are huge and lots of people go against the meta for certain playstyle/encounters. Too many people base their builds around sim data when in reality you are going to be in a situation where a different build works better than a sim one. They shouldn’t prune abilities just to cater to those who only do cookie cutter builds.