It’s very unlikely that anyone is getting banned for a single incident. It’s more likely that several days of activity that show the same behavior of AFKing in BGs leads to suspensions.
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I take it you don’t bg much then because this has been an issue for WEEKS. No one reviews your gameplay over various games from Blizzard. Players report you. Blizard can only go off what players report. And considering player are report happy and will report you for being a boosted character, or report you for being lower level and you’re being punished for not having gear… yes, blizzard will inact punishment if enough reports come in, regardless of the reason, and regardless if it’s true or not.
Actually, reports are just one data point among several. This may be more intuitive and obvious if you are familiar with software development or QA, or really any sort of analytics.
Again, it is highly unlikely that anyone is getting banned or suspended for AFKing in a single BG, regardless of whether they are being reported, but it is much more likely that consistent behavior indicative of being AFK is obvious in the other data points that are collected over several days…
They are though lol… I know people who personally have been suspended LAST week that were accidently false reported. Yes, they got it overturned - but the whole point of this post and thread is to bring awareness to the fact that this system is a problem to begin with BECAUSE of the issue of false suspensions and bans (DUE TO PLAYER ABUSE OF THE SYSTEM WITH NO REPERCUSSIONS) Why should a player constantly have to worry about every little action they take in the game and lose enjoyment over the fact that any player that simply dislikes them will report them although they did nothing wrong?
Imagine that! Spew garbage on an open channel and get silenced for it. Blizzard is finally acting on something that has been aggravating since '04. A little self control goes a long way, and being emotionally grown up enough to understand that helps EVERYONE.
BTW, a temp silence is literally nothing. For that matter, why is it that people can complain about getting bumped for inappropriate conversation, then complain about being bumped from BG’s afk because they can’t communicate just a little bit to let people know they are participating.
But see, it isn’t some virtual “they” forcing anything. I am moderately conservative, but I do have a mind, and can decide what I agree with regardless of politics. Does the phrase “majority rule” (the fundamental basis for our societal structure) which is the heel of democracy, mean anything to you? If I got 23 complaints from 23 individuals over one single player, I would definitely look into it. The obvious, that 23 subscriptions is worth more than one is too opaque to overlook. That one person now has the option to stay or leave…but he needs to understand that he/she is being contrary to his peers, and needs to change.
Yes, totally agree. The system will never be perfect, and those that choose to abuse it either direction should be held accountable.
Ruling by majority is never right, that’s where the entire idea of communism came from, as well as fascism. Both idealogies sought to give more power to the working class and to combine resources in a ‘‘fair’’ manner which was ultimately determined by the government anyway. This resulted in forced social and economic policies. Same with games like this and their new social contracts.
This.
Yeah - Like I said the main thing of this post is really just bringing attention to how abusive the current system is due to players abusing the power of reporting - even for situations that shouldn’t require a report (like getting ganked, or taking a BG leaf etc). People just take these acts to far and its becomes a negative toxic culture of false reports.
GRANTED, the system and some reporting feature is good if it does get used correctly. We do need a system like this as a community to actually report players who are legit exploiting and botting etc. A solution here is definitely finding a way to punish of deter players from reporting falsely. How this should be done - (IDK - deff not an easy issue to address and I’m sure blizz is aware hopefully) but I just wanted to bring light to the issue
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First, why do you think we vote.
Second, Communism/Facism are inherently flawed because someone is always in control.
The problem has never been the system, it has always been the people who are willing to abuse it.
Thank goodness for the thought police and people who want nothing more than to be offended. It’s a marriage made in heaven.
The thought police help breed the thin skin children who cry every time their feelings get hurt.
I guess thats why there are no more male and female characters anymore… too sensitive
Sounds like RL atm. Everyone is so whiny and pissy about everything, they’re sucking the joy and life out of everything because they’re all miserable sad-sacks.
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Voting isn’t majority. At least not entirely. The states have a certain number of counties, and the country has electoral votes. If it was a true democracy then California and New York would pretty much decide every single major election, which is wrong because the nation is so large that different regions have their own values and dialects. Meanwhile nations in europe can fit inside of texas so they they would work better with such a system because their values would remain pretty much the same due to a smaller land mass and population.
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And this is why I moved away from California. But those reps that comprise the electoral are voted into office through a majority of constituents. We are now living in a neo-feudal system in which we have the “appearance” of a say.
In Cali and NY there is a 46% minority who never have a voice…they are all or nothing states. This is yet another way the system is being abused.
Blizzard is not a political party, they own the game we play. The only sway we have is our hard earned cash, or the threat that the cash will dry up when we quit. Even with our small leverage, we still have to understand they own and manage the game and can make whatever rules they like.
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At this point I don’t think they even care about profits or opinions. They are all already filthy rich and it’s turned into an activist hobby of theirs. They shape the game how they see fit regardless of how it actually works out and the money they make is merely a bonus to them. This is in regards to classic at least, since their baby is retail and it’s their main product. Classic is a constant reminder of what the previous devs did and what their ideas were, that’s why they are intentually sabotaging it. Becuase if it does better than retail it looks bad on them.
While I agree, this is not something I feel is remotely worth talking about. We can stay or leave if we are so drastically unhappy. I want to stay, so I can level my rogue alt.
As for sabotaging classic? Imagine having the opportunity to re-introduce something that was wildly popular, but had some nagging flaws that you would like to fix (Think of how many iterations of King Kong we have seen). While you don’t want to trash your currently relevant baby, you want to bring some of the features and fixes to the reintroduction (classic). Does this make it no longer “original”? Now, you have been modestly successful with the update, but many people are submitting the SAME complaints that plagued the original release? Do you handle it the way it was handled way back when, or do you try the different approach.
We already know the answer to that. They are feeling the result.
the thing is, the likely hood of seeing the same people in AV is pretty low atm: i don’t think at any point in wows total history has there been this many people grinding pvp at once.
i mean before brutal was was sold for honor, there was around 5-10 or so regulars at most from my server doing it.
now at the battle masters there is 50+ people at each one not including the players already in games.
pvp has never been this popular: blizzard should take notes, this is how you encourage participation lol.
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That’s impossible.
Take a civics class clown
No one said it was garbage. The person said “brains” as a zombie on an RP realm.
Imagine standing up and pointing your finger down on someone thinking you shouldn’t get silenced for that.
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Not sure what left wing has to do with automated bans
blizzards words. suspensions and such are not automated, they are done manually by a gm. warnings are automated, and dont mean anything.