Did you ever stop to think about WHY the majority of players aren’t like you and the current devs? Perhaps you guys aren’t perfect.
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Fair. But then again a lot of reports are done without saying anything. For example you may have (just makin a number up here for example sake) like 3 people out of a 40 person AV who open the map after the game starts and report everyone in the cave AFK without saying anything in chat. If someone were to have joined say 1min late after the group already started running this person just accumulated 3 false reports for simply joining the game 1min late and not staying with the crowd. Over the course of 100+ AVs this could be enough to flag an auto suspension or something of that nature assuming this person joined late a majority of those games (which is rare but could be completely possible if someone was like using the AH inbetween trying to make gold or mine, herb etc). Like I said this is just an example and would take a massive quantity, but the point im trying to make is a lot of these false reports are often hidden and chat has nothing to do with it.
Also, like the zombie thing - if someone got annnoyed you were a zombie attacking people they just right click your name and click report. 95% of the time you wouldnt get a whisper or have them vocally be like “Hey, i reported you” - they would just simply do it quietly under spite of being annoyed at you or disliking you even though your doing nothing wrong and simply just playing the game
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Then those people in the cave better move or they’ll be removed from the AV for literally and actually being AFK. They even get a popup with a timer, and it says something like “Character-Name has reported you for being AFK. Move to avoid being removed from the BG.”
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Im saying for like people who just joined - as in they havent even had a chance to start moving yet and are still walking the 10 seconds it takes to even mount in front of the cave
Dang man, I hope you find something that makes you happy in life.
Then they aren’t AFK and the timer with warning to remove them from the BG for being AFK won’t run out.
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Zombie life matter. Ghoul rights
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Well my point is, the majority of us have things in life other than classic WoW that make us happy, and require our time to be spent on them. I guess this kind of went over your head.
Yes, automation bans are terrifying and ruining my enjoyment of the game.
This issue is huge, and getting worse. Walking on egg shells, unable to breathe. Logging in is an astronomical risk to getting falsely banned.
As an adult, it’s absolutely absurd.
Take a step back and truly look at things in a wider view.
Hopefully you’ll be able to grasp what’s happening around us.
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I had to edit what I was about to type because, well you know its the times we live in… But I think the only option you have OP is just be silent and raise hell with your actions… That’s why I like playing PVP games, you can silence what I say but you can stop my rogue from killing everything in your zone for hours and hours.
As for blizzards automated ban system, it sucks, but not much we can do about it… They have to make it a priority, and they don’t seem to really care in doing that… Only thing you can do is speak with your wallet if it becomes unbearable for you.
The timers irrelevant - if they even got to the point where they got that debuff that means they already got the false reports - those are the things that flag your account for a suspension so the damage is already done
My whole issue with it is, while yes it shouldn’t be happening to begin with; the fact that they don’t have the manpower to review all these bans in a timely matter is a problem. Oh, you’re defending a tower? 1 WEEK BAN! You open a ticket to appeal, wait time is 9 days. By then, regardless if your innocent and really were defending that tower, or if you were guilty and just afk, no one was able to handle your appeal before the ban expired, you had to live out the entire duration regardless if you were guilty or not.
What sort of damage? If people are falsely mass-reporting, it’ll be very obvious the moment someone looks at the logs. False reporting is actionable.
More like, Oh, you’re working from home with WoW running in the background, and happen to run to a tower so it looks like you’re defending while you’re actually working, and not playing WoW? And you’re doing this day after day for a solid week?
1 Week Ban (that’ll basically leave you with a week off and about the same amount of honor you would have had if you had been playing legitimately in your free time anyway).
If people get banned they might buy another account to fill their gaming adiction. Blizz did the math on it, same with removing RDF and other features, and offering free xfers to dead realms. They figured that it results in more micro-transactions than it brings in with sub fees, which are low considering inflation. It’s shady, and completely obvious to most of us but it still works because people do it anyway knowing full well why it’s happening. That’s the world we live in. We work, and we waste our money giving it to corporations that don’t have any moral values.
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Look up a video on youtube theres a few that show what Im talking about rather then me trying to explain it typing
I don’t have to. I am able to form my own opinions. I also play this game, and am well aware of how the reporting system works. I was around during WoW Classic when we had AV instance numbers and were able to assemble full premades, as well as how we could coordinate reports to remove people who weren’t in our premade to get people who were in.
And also familiar with the consequences that followed from such behavior.
They are though lol… I know people who personally have been suspended LAST week that were accidently false reported. Yes, they got it overturned - but the whole point of this post and thread is to bring awareness to the fact that this system is a problem to begin with BECAUSE of the issue of false suspensions and bans (DUE TO PLAYER ABUSE OF THE SYSTEM WITH NO REPERCUSSIONS) Why should a player constantly have to worry about every little action they take in the game and lose enjoyment over the fact that any player that simply dislikes them will report them although they did nothing wrong?
I understand what you’re saying. I don’t agree with you, and I’ve stated why. People aren’t getting banned left and right for legitimately playing the game, regardless of whether there are some false-positives here and there, which are overturned (and often may not even have been false-positives).
Well this is what I was saying doesn’t matter if you’re really guilty or innocent. Doesn’t matter if you really are defending that tower, or faking it so you can afk or do other things, if you’re reported, you receive the ban anyway. I know a guild mate who got falsely banned for doing this. I know because I was in that BG with him when he was banned. This has been an issue reported by many, and while yes people do AFK in BG’s, sitting at a flag waiting for it to turn is now considered afk and bannable.
People ARE getting falsely banned, and while the bans are being overturned, it takes DAYS to get someone to review your appeal. By that point, you’ve already lived out a good majority of your ban duration anyway.
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Looks like the drek or KeK meta is being inforced by blizz now. I’m glad to see that if horde decide to turtle they will be banned now.