The hostage takers are scum and in my experience are few and far between.
I realize that others may have a differing view and that’s fine. I get why Mootwo is annoyed by it because they have had the great fortune to be surrounded by players working together as a team to accomplish goals for all. Unfortunately there have been enough of the social vampires about to finally help prod Blizzard into change.
I can look on the coming update as positive but I’m not convinced that it’s going to be the cakewalk that some believe it to be. The upside? Era isn’t going anywhere so people can do it at their own pace and solo.
For better or worse, the old ranking system placed a lot of power in the hands of players with how their behavior could strongly affect others’ ranking outcomes. That power could be abused; however that isn’t something exclusive to just WoW’s ranking. Rarely anyone ever bats an eye at MasterLooter yet that holds similar potential. I would argue this sort of thing is an inherent attribute of any MMO.
In the case of era, this is a made up issue, given the plethora of already existing content that offers as good, and in most cases outright better gear (for example, vanilla warlock would prefer even bwl gear over the pvp set). The fastest route to that gear still won’t be pvp.
Now that being said, when we eventually get fresh realms, THEN it’s going to be a potential issue as the gear is near universally an upgrade over mc phase gear… But even then you’re talking about a super minority of the most dedicated neckbeards. Even in SoM it wasn’t that bad and the vast majority of people weren’t ranking super hard (I think my SoM guild had maybe 8 total push to rank 10).
And still take 100x more time and effort to gear up
By the time you get to 14 someone actually trying to gear via pve is going to be in half or more naxx gear
Better than you have, apparently. If you want to talk about gate keeping, good luck getting into a pvp premade without raid gear. If you’re still running around with Lobotomizer or unstoppable force, you’re probably an auto decline.
So you didn’t actually read the posts you we’ve trying to claim I didn’t read then. Got it.
Decay still exists within ranks, and you still need to out farm that weekly decay to advance within a given rank. You aren’t progressing from 13 to 14 in bracket 9
The only change to decay is that you won’t ever drop from 13 back to 12.
Yes, but you don’t have to hit an artificial amount set by your PvP bracket anymore. Which is a large change. Pair that with the decay change and ya, it’s much different from the current system.
Lets get away from saying it’s easier, harder, faster or whatever. The gear will unquestionably be more accessible to the masses.
It’s a stereotype using the nastiest word that people could come up with, by people who have zero desire to understand anything outside their own tiny world bubble.
It may be ok if it was said in jest, or there was a little more open-mindedness like “Oh yeah I had a bad time but I can see it being fine elsewhere” but the people who are like that are RARE and the few good ones.
One other thing I think is ok is having a person say that Whitemane itself was bad so it’s a good change but I’ve seen that like one time.
Also, the people I see using it the most are very concerned with themselves, gear, and themselves and I see them saying things like “community doesn’t matter in an MMO”. They are the players who do nothing but make the game worse and have turned the Retail community into what it is.
Again I think it was one of these:
Future Season change they thought people would like
Throwing a bone to PVPers while they worked on hardcore
No, now you just need to hit the artificial amount set by blizzard instead of the mafia.
Which also, by the way, is it goes live at 750k/week is probably HIGHER than less populated realms where requiring. Hell in og vanilla I saw people getting bracket 1 for as low as 650k during aq40, even no one else really cared about r14. More competitive servers will be easier at 750k, but that’s still an enormous amount for the overwhelming majority of players.
If it goes live at the current ptr 500k it will be easier, but blizzard has very tentative about announcing that number as being any more than a ptr only value.
We still have no confirmation about what the actual final value will be.
Horde or alliance I couldn’t queue Tuesday through Fri/Sat unless I was okay with waiting 10/15 min for multiple zero honor games, usually in a row. They had to break AV premading early on too if you remember because of all the shenanigans going on there. I wont say Im a majority case but I know I wasnt alone.
Mootwo can get as annoyed as they like. The simple fact of the matter is people abused the system. They were openly hostile to any perceived threats that would not join them or work with them, they engaged in rampant amounts of RMT, they used bots to pad player pools and set the bar for competing/ranking to an absurd degree. You had to be a masochist to pvp and that goes for solo queue’rs to full premades and everyone in between.
In theory, adding conquest to random battlegrounds (back in retail) and letting solo BG hero’s acquire the seasons best available gear should have motivated people to play, try hard win, be a team player, promote socialization and every other good thing. In practice it ushered in a bot/afk wave that came with a noticeable drop participation and never recovered. And of course, it still wasn’t considered easy enough to gear by the vocal majority, lol.
So, given what we already witnessed, yes, these changes look like a blessing but may very well end up being a curse. And lets not forget this isnt something Blizz is dropping on us cuz they think they know better and think its an improvement - they did it because we couldn’t handle the responsibility when they gave it to us.
Personally, I don’t think it was enough of a change to radically alter the entire Classic experience on Era clusters going forward from its release. It’ll be all the rage for awhile and then things will settle down again. There will probably be some drama along the way but when has that never been the case?
