And those saying it will make it ‘harder’
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So all the gear from those lower raids will be as valuable as they currently are?
Will we see as many people farming SGC?
Depends on what we’re looking at the value here. I find the value of enjoying the game with people. Not to be insulting, but you seem to have more value on digital loot.
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You’re still just not answering the questions.
People that want to raid will raid. People that want to rank will rank.
The change may cause an increase in players queuing but equilibrium will be reached once people see if they want to continue. You aren’t the only one that has said or given input eluding to this.
There’s no ranking anymore.
That is an answer. Most people play to enjoy the game with people. The loot just comes with it.
That doesn’t answer the question though.
Is that gear just as valuable? Will we see the market for those farms/grinds be unaffected?
It doesn’t answer your question because perhaps you don’t see the value of what it means. Your rhetoric emphatically focuses on pecuniary value measured by item level.
Most people who play Classic don’t gauge their gameplay nor what they do based on the loot.
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How valuable are they now? What do you even mean by valuable?
So my warrior for example, will be doing the Honor grind with the new system.
The blue honor gear is amazing for warriors. I can effectively skip any pre bis farm with that gear. No 5 mans for me.
Same with the hunter.
I was able to hit rank 12 on four 60s and 11 on this one with minimal PvP per week and no cheese (towers and sand). This toon hit knight at level 51 in a single AV weekend with little time invested, three losing matches.
I don’t think people understand just how easy it is/was to rank up on a dead server. If the NEW system makes it easier, well look out world, we will be tripping over R14 gear on Thalnos! You got any rank 14 top hats?
It makes it easier to get multiple toons up at the same time with no commitments to other players.
You’re not skipping it - you’re replacing it with a BG farm instead.
Some will probably take the same route, there’s nothing really wrong with it. 5 mans will be fine without you, I promise.
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There’s no ranking points but there is player ranks.
You could have just asked for clarification if you didn’t understand.
Was not a slap at Despite or anyone else.
Just a wink at the creativity of those that were on low pop servers.
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Yes, but you’re not ranking against others. Not sure what the right terminology would be.
I’ve been in well-run PVP communities before and so the"mafia" stereotype is annoying. One of my main current pet peeves.
That people have so much hatred for communities in an MMO is pretty gross. They’ve either had a really bad experience which sucks or they have poor social skills making it difficult for them to play nice with others. No matter what you say they’re hard stuck on this made-up stereotype too.
Anyway, I’m not worried about too many R14s, this still isn’t a cake walk and not everyone will PVP. Plus the servers have been running for almost four years and tons of people have Naxx 40 gear.
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Its a stereotype for a reason.
Blizz isn’t making this change because they hate pvp communities.
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I think it’s a good change. PvP gear has a ton of stam, and isn’t BiS for pve. So there’s still better gear out there. The fact that pvp gear which is arguably worse than pve gear, but is harder to obtain makes no sense. Alleviating some of the no life/ no shower/ no job from R14 has 0 negative side effects.
I feel pity for people that obtained GM / HW. It’s a sad achievement to gain. It’s literally mediocre gear for a massive sacrifice of your time on earth. PLUS it doesn’t even make you better at pvp. Coordinated flag captures in a premade doesn’t do anything for you when you’re jumped by a rogue and a mage out in the world.
Thunderfury, Onyxia Tooth Pendant, Onslaught Girdle, Band of Acuria, Quickstrike Ring, Striker’s Mark, Flameguard Gauntlets, Chromatic Boots, Cloak of Draconic Might, Cloak of Firemaw, Drake Talon Pauldrons.
There are a bunch of reasons to go into MC and BWL for a Warrior who has access to all the R14 gear. Warrior tanks would have a few more.
I am not worried about it killing off the scene for MC/Ony/BWL on Era. There are already a ton of R14 players in the game.
On a fresh like SoM2 it will almost certainly be a requirement in a proper hardcore guild to get R14 for certain classes. That was already the case though if you were a Warrior in a guild like APES/Nope, Onslaught etc and was a holdover from the private server speed running scene. For example I think Onslaught required a minimum of R10 for DPS Warriors because a couple of the pieces are that good.
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