Everyone in R14

How is the ecosystem going to look once the baseline to raid is R14 gear for some pugs?

Will people be as interested in the lower tiered raids with the gear not being nearly as impactful?

Does this hurt or better the Classic experience?

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The relevant time to have asked that question is roughly 3.5 years ago, when that gear was first implemented into Classic.

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Yes but it was not accessible to all. It will be in a week.

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That’s an opinion.

No. Not everyone can make the time commitment with the current system. As well as it limits the # of people who can get it at any one time.

The next system is very different and much more forgiving.

I dont foresee any issues. Not everyone likes to pvp. Not everyone is going to look to skip content.

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That hat my avatar is wearing is proof to the contrary.

You’re everyone?

What do you think the time investment was?

Come November a lot of players will have R13/14 gear.

More than other players. Hence the rank attained.

Who? How much?

Do you not understand how “ranking” works?

More than you think

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GM/HW gear does not negate raiding experiences because not everyone is going to bypass or circumvent those raids with friends nor will everyone grind GM/HW if they have access to raids out of the gate.

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So when rankings don’t matter, do you think more or less people can succeed?

It’s more of the requirement from pugs or new groups. The gear will be easy to earn and considerably better than any pre bis.

The same way I got my hat before this change would mean it would actually take me more work in this new system, comparatively.

The changes are directly to make attaining the gear easier. You are making a poor argument.

Towers or sand?
or BoTh!

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