You don’t need to spend a week shtposting about how great retail is to tell everyone you’re a retail loser.
Go. Back. To. Retail.
Stop playing TBC. It’s not for you. You need tri spec, LFG, pandas and 5 levels of the same raid. Now go back to it.
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I doubt that even the retail players are enjoying it lol. How could they? You guys don’t need to worry about dual spec. For starters, it doesn’t apply to the vast majority of you. You can’t trivialize content that’s already trivialized. Blizzard is only interested in changes that impact the ability of players to actually play the game. Dual spec doesn’t fit that need. Relax.
Adding dual spec will change how everyone approaches the game.
My guild has people who regularly respec for the start of the raid based on needs. You’re trying to downplay the impact dual spec will have. Keep in mind class and content design for tbc and wrath are VASTLY different. Currently most raids won’t have a holy pally go ret and a ele shaman go resto mid raid. With dual spec though even the more casual guilds will be doing this. Stop trying to hand wave away the negative effects dual spec will have. It will basically require players in semi hard-core guilds and above to have dual spec and have specs based on boss fights. The meta is so min maxed that thinking things like this won’t happen is just ignorant.
Just give us retail QoL with Classic difficulty. That’s what I wanted.
Talent trees, no nerfs on raids/dungeons - with a group finder & cross server play.
Semi hard-core guilds and above completed the raid tier on release week. How do you further trivialize content in a solved game? Again, you don’t need to worry about this.
Just give us retail QoL with Classic difficulty. That’s what I wanted.
Talent trees, no nerfs on raids/dungeons difficulty - with a group finder & cross server play.
But now - it’s all 50 people left playing on each server are struggling to make parties - with all 50 people trying to run in 50 different directions. But oh no, nochanges - because Zordiak and a bunch of kids who live with mom (or overweight middle aged neckbeards who live with mom & still play with legos) say they know better than the Blizz designers & engineers who all quit the company to go work on the Riot MMO or New World - or just retire from dealing with the BS of neckbearded Blizzealots.
Go back to retail, level 41.
You talk about retail a lot. For most guilds, posting with your main on this forum is frowned upon.
Everyone jumped on that classic train when the hype was there. People were going on about how great the slower pace of the game was, about how it was great because it didn’t include all the new “QoL” changes, etc. We had all these streamers going on about how they were always on that classic train, and how they loved classic’s older gameplay model more than anything else. Everyone was trying to act like some classic/TBC OG.
Plenty of players rolled up classic characters while riding the hypetrain, knowing exactly what was coming, and now have surprised pikachu face that the game is what it is and demand the game be revamped.
The streamers lasted about a week in TBC, except for maybe WilliE who just quit because TBC “didn’t have enough content” for him to keep his subs up lol.
Everyone knew that there were rep grinds and plenty of attunements (and this was touted as a positive). Many of us like it. If it’s not your thing, you knew what you were getting into. If you want changes, honestly, just go back to retail and go play a lalafell or w/e lol. There’s plenty of games for the modern gamer.
I imagine PvP’ers are the only ones who have any cause to complain since Blizz did decide to totally change that aspect of TBC. But if you want dual spec, or transmog, or that other stuff…just go to a different game, you’ll be happier.
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Does your guild have an HR department or something? lol
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Competitive guilds don’t generally want to be associated with what goes on here. The forum doesn’t exactly make up the best part of the community lol.
You’re talking phase 1.
I’m looking at ALL of the life cycle of tbcc.
It’s the same conditions naxx saw in classic. The very top guilds will clear it the day it is released, but most others won’t clear it for a week or two more. Also the consumption rate for 95+% of the playerbase is what dual spec will effect. That top 1% are already practicing sunwell on a private server at this point. Have already cleared phase 2 content on the per, exc. Consumption rate is important for the majority of players, not the top 1%.
Sure, but on the flip side of the coin, is the life long ret player going holy for one encounter going to improve your raid progress? It’s a pvp convenience, that’s it. If you haven’t beaten all the content by now, no change to the game is going to fix that.
It’s all moot anyway. These are not the kinds of changes that Blizzard is willing to implement. They only adjust things that impact the ability of players to play the game. That’s why HvH is a thing, or at least will be.
Complete rubbish. Your rhetoric may compel stupid people to listen to you, but that’s not how any of this works and it’s not how we got retail.
The current state of retail isn’t because blizzard listened to players and made small changes over time. It’s the complete opposite. It’s because the developers got full of themselves and refused to listen to what the player base was telling them about the game. Many, many people told them their game design direction for wow was off the rails and they refused to listen. It has nothing to do with what you’re talking about.
You’re just as bad as the antivaxers, flat earthers, and the like. You’re not interested in truth. You’re interested in spinning a false narrative in order to make disingenuous arguments that have no basis in reality.
I have no sympathy for people like you or your perspective. You’re a burden to society and make everything worst for everyone.
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I’m not sure that he’s as bad as those people lol. He’s entitled to his opinion. QoL fixes don’t make retail bad, so you’re right about that. Retail is bad because the gameplay sucks. If they took away fast respeccing and mount rings and transmog, retail would still suck.
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You seem reasonable and normal lol
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People just raid log because dual-spec does not exist how is that better?
Why raid log?
It’s not the 50g respecs. Gold is extremely easy to make in tbc.
Just admit your bored of the game and move on.
lol what are you people talking about
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difference being, they actually got to play through it as it was before being able to vote on changes with an overwhelming majority. feel free to add in polls for changes that require 75% vote to pass AFTER we’ve played through the old content, thanks 