What many of you don’t understand is that eventually YOU become the person resisting changes.
Every step on the road to retail starts with many people asking for small changes over a long period of time. The end result IS retail. This is why #nochanges was a thing.
YOU may be satisfied with dual spec, but as soon as it’s implemented the next guy will come in and ask for tri spec. The thing is, it never stops. People always ask for more. And if you give players what they want 100% of the time then it looks like retail where warriors dual wield 2 handed weapons.
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The core issue is some people want TBBC+ and some people want TBCC completely unaltered, to the point if there was a bug then, they should leave it in now, literally 0 changes.
I’m in the camp that wants TBCC, with very minor QoL changes like dual spec that have no impact on the core game, or how you play or experience it.
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Sure you mean like bug fixes?
Ooooooo no. nononono
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Precisely why I am playing Classic. We ended up with retail specifically because of changes like these. What made Classic special is it hadn’t been ruined by changes, TBC brought flight which I always loved.
But adding a retail shop and boosts to TBC makes it very un-classic. Sad. Nostalgia just 'aint what it used to be.
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You’re tying to relate 2 unrelated comments, I said there are 2 type of players. I’m just saying some people are against any changes period.
secondly, I have yet to see an argument against dual spec, outside it wasn’t in TBC.
It has zero down sides, and has zero effect on the game. It just lets people access their entire class
People keep saying spec identity like that’s a phrase that makes any sense, when in reality it’s class identity
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Did you even read the OP post? Read it slowly, move your lips if it helps.
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ironically, whining for changes was a part of TBC which inevitably lead to retail so in fact, you are experiencing TBC again in all its forms.
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Of course change never stops. It’s the only constant.
Eventually this and all games will move in a direction any individual will not like.
Just stop playing when you don’t. What’s with the endless whining.
And it’s never just game changes. People just move on eventually, it’s always easier or people who don’t want any change at all to blame the changes:
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Yea but can we move the mailboxes out from inside of the banks to just outside the banks in Shatt
This is why I can’t take these posts seriously. The fact that YOU ignore the massive implications of dual spec doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
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What are the massive implications?
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There isn’t one. This guy thinks that if TBC adds dual spec, that covenants are the next addition lol.
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Exactly I have yet to see one argument against it outside it wasn’t not true to original TBC, and that somehow wasting gold to play other specs on your class, is immersion or something.
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The gold isn’t the issue. 50g is nothing. It’s having to click 60 times on the talent trees. It’s having to fly back to the trainer. It’s an unnecessary annoyance. These guys think that retail is bad because of things like that. Retail is bad because the gameplay sucks.
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Read around the forum. There have been a hundred reasons given.
But the point is you think the changes you want are good, but the changes others want are bad. Well, guess what, ask the other guy and according to him the changes he wants are good and the ones you want are bad. See how that works?
There’s not only no pleasing everybody, there’s no pleasing anybody. As the OP said the second dual spec is added those same people will be demanding tri-spec, because this entitled attitude will never be satisfied. If there’s one lesson to learn from 17 years of WoW it is that truth.
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You have yet to actual give a reason against it, you have just made vague allusions to it somehow being bad, but can’t put into words WHY it’s bad.
No troll, not being toxic, I sincerely do not see a downside to dual spec
Even if they added trispec, what’s the harm? Maybe you could argue that it creates a min/max meta around raid encounters, but that stuff is so simple that it’s being beaten in a matter of days. Top guilds are already doing it, despite the gold costs. The game just isn’t difficult enough to defend these outdated concepts.
You don’t need to worry about corruption vendors. They’re about 10 years off.
Every class in every scenario will have the exact same spec. No more making a choice. No more excelling at one part of the game or another. Nope, just instantly switch to the optimal spec in every situation. Mass homogenization. No variety at all.
TBC was not built like that. You are expected to make choices. Those choices have some consequences. You make sacrifices. People see this kind of design as bad only because the last dozen years the game hasn’t worked that way. But it did in TBC. So it should in TBCC. You need to adapt to the game, not the other way around.
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I would rather play with someone that I know has been playing their spec for a long time. Specs are more like sub-classes in that way. And since most people don’t change on a whim they generally excel at that specialization. Not always, but overall if you play with a healer, for example, they probably exclusively heal.
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