Essences.... please... account wide

This is why I don’t have any character that I have “mained” an entire expansion. Until 8.2 I would go into each major patch with a main and several geared alts that could swap. Whichever was needed the most for progression and/or had the best luck was the new main. I even did it somewhat in 8.3 by originally grinding essences on my monk then switching to the lock because it had better luck. Having done the majority of the essence grind on two characters has made me so jaded to it I login to alts everyday and log right back out when I remember they have no essences or only a couple rank 1 essences.

If essences were BoA I would be on a lot more than I am and would be doing a lot more content than I do. It’s pretty much to the point I login 4 days each week now. Do my 8.3 assaults, raid and one night of m+. In 8.1 I was on everyday and raiding on 3 characters along with doing tons more mythic+.

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https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/quelthalas/anansi lmfao… 2 r3s a r2 and ONE r1. Please stop. Guilds decline players without a 75+ neck 4 BiS r3 traits, r12+ just for heroic progression. I’d love to play with my less hardcore friends in their guild on an alt, while still being able to play my main without having to dump my whole day at the game. Unfortunately, all these rental systems are just causing Guild leaders to be more and more strict on what they accept in their main roster. It’s not about skill anymore, its all about this garbage rank on something thats going away in months, yet some of them still take a month to achieve.

Mythic BOEs are account wide… what are you talking about? And they can come with corruption which is a hundred times stronger than any essence could ever be.

They’re players who hate to see others enjoy themselves because they dont have as much time as others may to play the game. I cant have fun!! so you cant have fun either!!

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A) I have more purple essences, but green ones from 8.3 are performing better. Surely a hardcore player like you knows this already.

B) Hardcore players know they’re signing up for long grinds to stay competitive. Surely you know this as well as a hardcore player yourself.

Because there are people who live to be sanctimonious and deny others for the sheer pleasure of the sense of superiority it gives them.

There are plenty of other things in the game that need to be grinded. Aside from essences, if they had chosen to make them BOA, we would still have AP, Cloak, Gear, Corruption, 8.3 essences for most players still at this point. That is plenty to grind for one character even if essences were taken out of the grind. The game has plenty to do, and as a hardcore player or a casual player, sometimes it is nice to be able to pick up an alt to just play with friends even if they’re on their mains.

My main surpasses most of my friends’ mains, and i dont enjoy just playing my hunter. I would like to be able to say, ok im gonna go tank or heal for my friends in either a raid or dungeon to help them out without having to worry about grinding 5 different systems. All i’m saying is that video games are supposed to be fun, and most of us have fun doing things with our friends and not repeating solo content.

And there’s a lot to do in the game even outside of the current content. The game doesnt need these tedious systems. Being able to enjoy every aspect of every class and spec at its highest potential is what makes it fun for hardcore players, or just players who have extra time to dedicate to the game. I guarantee you, this game is played more when alts are more accessible.

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Yeah. It’s unfortunate we live in a world like this. Where instead of cheering each other on, most just look for ways to keep people down. We’re not asking for anything out of the ordinary. We’re asking for a temporary system to be opened up so we can enjoy it for the remaining time it has left. A lot of people are going to wish they could’ve had the chance to try a certain class with certain essences, but couldnt simply because they didnt have the time to dedicate to so many characters. I will always believe BOA should only be applied to systems that arent permanent, simply because if the system is permanent, you have all the time in the world to unlock it.

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Your neck is level 50 by the time you’re at the halls of origination quest.

Bi-weekly assaults give you a vessel each, that’s at least 2 runs a week for activities that take ~an hour.

Please, you can get to 450 in an afternoon.

This is true. Corruption RNG is terrible, but it can also work in your favor and your alt ends up more powerful than your main with a fraction of the time invested.

Kinda true, however 8.3 essences are BiS for most specs even at r1.

I’d wager 99/100 of the people claiming they do fine with all rank 1s actually have 2-3 rank 3s socketed.

The first reply saying rank 1s dont matter has 1 rank 4, 1 rank 3, 1 rank 2, ad 1 rank 1.

The rank one is the PvP essence, which scales horribly with ranks too.

He’s also a feral druid, which dont rely on essences very much. The only thing they really need is the energy regen from Lucid Dreams, and that is available at rank 1. Other classes/specs need rank 3.

450 in an afternoon? You’re going to have to teach me. Because as far as i know, in order to get 450 gear i need to do M7 dungeons. Emissaries only scale based off your ilv, wq gear on my 472 hunter goes up to 415, so thats out of the question. Normal Ny’alotha gear is 445 with no chance to WF or TF since that was taken out of the game. So i am not sure how you are getting 450 ilv in ONE afternoon considering M+ doesnt guarantee a piece of loot unless you’re funneling gear by going with nothing but leather wearers on your druid, at which point you’re already doing something that most players wont be able to do, and nobody is going to recruit a 410-430 ilv toon to a M7 or a Heroic Ny’alotha which is the only place that has a chance to give you something that could help you get to 450 in one afternoon. Even then, still impossible.

Like i said about the other systems. They are fine. Horrific visions are fun, Dungeons are fun, raiding is fun. Repeating boring content is not fun. There is plenty to do in the game to where taking out this repetitiveness would not affect the game in any way.

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Got carried by a guildmate through five M+ (below 10) and I farmed the rest on my own. I’m sure hardcore guilds such as yours can do it even quicker.

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This or at the very least make them not timegated/less of a grind to acquire once you’ve reached rank 3 on one character.

For example:
Let’s say I complete worldvein on this toon over 3 weeks, make it so that my alts can get it within a day through the same method (island expeditions)

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This I can get behind, it should be easier for alts (like the account bound gear). Maybe not a day but a week for r3 seems reasonable.

Well essentially locked behind 1 week is what I meant, instead of 3 weeks, so a day for the work order thing and that’s it.

And the azshara one (dont remember the name) make it only require 9 for rank 3 instead of 64

This is of course only if you’ve already acquired the rank 3 on another toon.

I would like what the OP suggests but I feel like this is the only compromise for the grind-happy devs

all you void elves just look alike now.

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Right, but i dont want to ask my guild to carry my alt because it’s not going to benefit my guild in any way because it’s not for the guild that im doing it. I’d much rather do it with my friends who are not in my main’s guild. Do the cloak quest line, which is the newest system, farm my AP by doing islands with my friends, emissaries which can also be done with friends, and then spam dungeons with my friends with all of us on alts. Not tell them, hey let’s all go work on our essences for 2-4 weeks, we can play our alts then.

And all you did was catch-up to last patch’s mains. There is still a lot to be done to grind 470+ which is where most mains will end up this patch.

You did 5 this week and 1 over a month ago. Your character caught up in gear over a months time and you still don’t have those rank 3 essences you say are easy to get.

Your main still doesn’t have all rank 3 essences and hasn’t pushed to at least a +15 so looks like you got work there too.

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You grossly overestimates how high the general population ilvl will be with the removal of titanforged.

I am 470+ in bags without touching mythic raids, how am I over estimating? I haven’t even 5 mask cleared yet.