Epic BG premades need to be stopped

You do if you want to have an equal advantage as the enemy team.

Neither is posting on the forums trying to defend people ruining a game mode, yet here you are.

Ah, so you want to. Thatā€™s different than need.

I have just as much a right to post and argue with anyone as you do, we all pay our subs to post here.

Indeed, but donā€™t cry about something not being your problem when youā€™re making it your problem.

No itā€™s a need, you canā€™t expect 40 unorganized under geared random players, possibly of all different languages to be able to compete fairly against 40 organized, geared players? Thereā€™s a reason why a solo BG blitz team canā€™t queue into a premade rated BG team, theyā€™re separate brackets because having a full organized team would just crush the solo queue players.

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It isnā€™t my problem to provide you with solutions to your problem.

No, itā€™s a want.

You want to win, but you donā€™t want to work for it. Oh well, you donā€™t get the rewards if you donā€™t work for it.

Itā€™s like saying, ā€œI want AOTC, but I donā€™t want to join a mythic raiding guild.ā€

Anyways would love a blue to take note of this issue, twinks gave an unfair advantage, and so does queue syncing, people want to play the game fairly. ((besides bullies))

Iā€™m sure they are well aware of it, after 20 years of forum posts malding about it.

Good thing you donā€™t need to be in a mythic raiding guild, or even mythic raid to get AOTC, maybe play the game a bit and get off the forums.

Youā€™re right, itā€™s a want to be able to play the game fairly, but a need in order to actually win the game.

Just like you donā€™t need to be in a premade to win an Epic. Even when there is a premade on the enemy team.

But it certainly makes it easier.

I canā€™t say Iā€™ve lost many if any at all epic bgā€™s when thereā€™s a majority premade on my team, usually a complete steamroll, same goes for when iā€™m against a majority premade as well. Itā€™s definitely a very unfair advantage to the team that doesnā€™t have a premade, youā€™re better off leaving and re-queuing on an alt or logging off the game for 30 minutes, unless getting farmed for hardly any honor is ā€˜funā€™ meanwhile the rest of your team /afks out.

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Itā€™s not unfair, they can do it too.

It is unfair, itā€™s a premade vs a non premade, in a game mode that doesnā€™t have the ability to queue up with 40 players in a raid group.

No, it isnā€™t.

Itā€™s an advantage, but pugs have all the same tools as the premade does.

It would be unfair if the premade team had 41 players or had gear which is unavailable to a pug.

No they donā€™t, they queued for the game mode and are against people exploiting the system, they have no tools to be on an equal playing field. Itā€™s by far an unfair advantage. You arenā€™t expected to be queue syncing with 40 other players just to be matched fairly.

Yes they do. They have the same number of players, they all have access to all the same equipment and abilities.

They even have access to voice chat, they donā€™t even need to leave the game.

Doesnā€™t specify what size the groups are, 2007 date, chances are the player didnā€™t understand you could play with 4 other friends.

I mean you can keep playing dumb, everyone knows that no one uses the in game voice chat, if it even actually works, and even still, that doesnt mean all 40 players will opt in to use it, the 40 man premades have an immediate unfair advantage before any pug group would even be able to get organized.

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They arenā€™t talking about a 5 man group making a premade in AV.

The date doesnā€™t matter.

All I see is, you, trying to find excuses.

But they can, it is available. It works.

If I choose to disable chat, am I then allowed to say that anyone who does use chat has an unfair advantage and should be banned?

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You dont need chat to participate well in any casual BG, so long as you know the game mode, most of the time BG chat is silent anyways.

So with your logic, my rated BG team of all multi hero, multi glad players with synergy should be able to queue into a 10 man random BG team? Those players all have access to the same gear we do. What do you think would happen in that match?

Makes me wonder why Blizzard created a Random BG queue and a Rated BG queue if the teams are on an even playing field. :crazy_face:

You can, there is nothing preventing you.

You donā€™t need voice chat to participate well in a premade, just follow the leader.

Most of the strategy is done via /RW anyway.

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No you canā€™t the game modes are separate, a 10 man rated BG team cannot queue into a 10 man random BG team, thereā€™s a reason why thereā€™s two different game modes, because the premade team would have an unfair advantage.

Interesting I have someone with 4x your HKā€™s telling me everything is organized, orchestrated and communicated in private discord communities.

Yes you can, how do you think premades are getting into epics?

Iā€™m a member of at least 3 premade communities, most of the time, itā€™s all over /RW.

There are some who do everything via Discord, but not many.

Iā€™m not new, and Iā€™m not stuck, quite enjoying it thank you.