From healing many dungeons while leveling up , the prot warriors always held aggro better, and had MUCH more Survivability and hardiness compared to arms/fury tanks. You could tell right away if a warrior was prot or not.
funny just the other day I got my first blue drop, it was a 2h sword with 200 armor and +10 defense, not condoning it but what was blizzard thinking ?
Which talent specifically makes them hold better aggro? Defiance is pretty good but it’s nowhere near as good as Enrage and to some extent Unbridled Wrath at generating aggro. As for hardier, the only protection points that you really even take is Toughness, which is only 10% armor.
Personally I’d rather have my tank contributing more meaningful damage to the group so that we finish the dungeon faster. I’m leveling a Priest right now and honestly it’s laughably easy to heal normal dungeons as long as dps players aren’t total morons.
Yeah there were quite a few weird weapons like this. Dunno why.
Oddly enough, I don’t think you are in charge of tanks, and most groups are probably happy to get a 2h tank over no tank. lol
I believe Shield Slam is one of the highest threat attacks in the game , but also having a quicker taunt in prot is important.
I agree it’s still easy to heal arms/fury warriors while leveling , but my point is I just think prot does a better job. You can still spec 3-4 talents into enrage while specing into shield slam too, but perhaps its also good to spec into arms tree for parry and other things.
You’re not smart. Bad.
Yeah this post sort of demonstrates a lack of knowledge about how tanking on a Warrior even works, which I think is a lot of where the misconceptions like the ones the OP has. Lower cooldown on taunt isn’t important at all while tanking 5 man instances, your main two sources of snap threat are Sunder Armor and Shield Bash. (Shield Bash doesn’t give more threat than Sunder/Heroic Strike by the way, it just interrupts spell casting.)
Deep protection isn’t good for tanking while leveling because you basically can’t solo at all in that spec, and it barely adds anything to your ability to tank instances.
You don’t even have to dual wield as a fury tank, and a lot of times I wear a shield. But that’s really the biggest change you can make between a dps warrior and a “tank warrior” while leveling. Shields are OP.
Stick to playing Pally, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Know what I find somewhat hysterical after having read this entire thread? Exactly what I said to people when we heard of Blizzard sponsoring a “Classic” wow. At the time the forums were filled to the brim with “I want the old WoW back! I want the experience of it back! WoW just isn’t the same!”… Flash forward to this thread, and you see people defending the retail mindset, all the while ignoring what wow USED to be like. It used to be that roles were well defined and people geared accordingly, outgearing the content notwithstanding. My personal opinion is, if you want the run and gun of retail, go PLAY IT.
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I mean, it doesnt matter what your spec is on Paladin, you still arent signing up as dps XD.
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Would help with a little more context, like what level are you talking about?
Because pre BRD / Sunken Temple, there is no reason to spec Prot. Other than a few bosses while leveling, everything is easily tanked by a 2 handed Arms warrior.
If you actually played Vanilla, you would know this already.
Heh, just spotted that. Learned a long time ago that you don’t group with healers who say that.
Skarm is the one of the best Vanilla tanks and he not only MT as a feral druid sometimes. But tanks naxx as dual wield fury.
Lol…gain some levels, see how that works out for you.
Right. And even then…you can just put on a shield if you feel like things are hitting you a little harder than you’d like. Mobs are way softer here than on pservs and even on pservs people didn’t spec prot until 60.
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Any warrior trying to dual-wield fury tank a dungeon is an idiot because at this juncture, without access to T2+ itemization, fury warriors have low AoE output, and are mostly wearing a mishmash of leather and mail.
On the otherhand, 2H tanks are completely viable, and in many instances preferable for groups that don’t want to sit there pulling 1 pack at a time, or CCing every pull (only to have a mage break them with blizzard anyway).
I would say it’s a right of passage for a good tank to balance both. If you’re low on threat and not in danger of being insta-gibbed, DW. If you’re dipping low, macro the shield on until your healer recovers and switch back. If you’re fighting a single boss, just strap on the shield unless somebody’s going ham, in which you would start the fight DW then macro over to shield after 5-10 sec. Most cases probably more mana efficient for healers if you do it right.
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I regularly tank as 2h Arms w/ WW axe and have 0 issue holding aggro or with taking damage. I think warriors that have said issues are undergeared for the dungeons they are running.
Side note: OP must be a troll but honestly I laughed so hard at his comments.
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I agree. In retail, at 120 - if you don’t have a shield you’re probably a bad tank
In classic, I’m in my 50’s and still tanking with Gatorbite.
OP is bad and his thread is bad
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