Because their damage was abysmal, even for tanks. And thats what got buffed. And thats whats getting reigned in going into the next season
The âmetaâ changes as a result of the the BDK
There are plenty of BDKâs running the Ppal meta that canât time the 17
To each their own.
Heâs got a point though, lust isnât mandatory and if your greifing the entire team itâs not worth it.
Itâs just a haste buff that probably only goes out once during an 8
Vast majority mate⌠Thank you for proving my point. Eventually any disparity will be born out in the stats. A 0.1% difference in optimization will be born out when you push to the extremes of the system. No one but the highest tier of players are doing +17s⌠That isnât the vast majority of players⌠The vast majority are in the 2-10 range, and since rewards stop at +10, the overwhelming majority of keys are at +10⌠So you balance for +10⌠not +17 and +20.
You want balance at that level? Delete every spec and just copy/paste their abilities across the board with different graphics to indicate the different classes. You literally wonât see âbalanceâ at that tier of play until that happens.
You see the exact same thing happen at the highest tiers of raiding and (Iâll admit Iâm assuming as I donât PvP, but based on prior experience Iâm confident itâs true) the highest tiers of PvP.
Heck take your meta spec. At the 10-11 level, 671,077 prot paladin characters are recorded. Increase that by ONE step to 12 and up and it drops to 164,135 characters⌠Bring it up to +15 and up (not even at the level youâre talking about) and itâsâŚ19,062 characters.
Are you seeing what we mean by the vast majority. They should NOT balance the game for those 20k players⌠Those 20k players should just flat out accept that they play the game well outside the norm. That means accept that youâre going to be playing a meta spec.
Are those 20k players not indicative on what classes are stronger?
The difference between a 17 and a 20 is not even close to 0.1
I already answered this why do you continue to ask the same questions expecting different answers?
No one is arguing that one isnât stronger. The argument was that youâre asking to balance the game around 20k players⌠when the vast majority of players arenât playing at that level.
You donât balance the game for +20âs⌠You balance it for +10âs⌠for which it is MORE than balanced.
Theres really not.
People are running the same teams theyve had since before Prot Pal took the lead
The content being easy enough for any spec to do it has nothing to do with how balanced they are. You could do a +10 with a hunter tank, I guess thatâs a perfectly balanced tank spec
What are you getting at, all these dks struggling should just play the Grizzle comp and they time 20s?
And here we are with bad faith argumentsâŚagain.
Just applying the logic evenly
The average player could not do a +10 with a hunter tank. Thatâs the same as pointing out that no healer runs occur, therefore no one should run a healer as theyâre useless.
And again, no one argued that the tanks are balanced. The point is that if you have an infinitely scaling system, you will always see a statistical outlier when you push the extreme of the system.
FYI, if youâre seeking near perfect balance for the top 0.01% of players⌠they have literally never done this in the history of the game.
Have I ever told you the definition of insanity?
Im getting at you making false claims again that dont hold water.
Youre not applying logic at all by throwing in bad faith arguments.
âIf tanks are balanced then do it without a tanking spec! Hurrdurrâ
They must have gotten too close the their season pick, need to knock them down a peg.
dks are extremely strong and are fully capable of running 20s with the big boys
Iâm not seeking that
That I have no answer to Brewa. But letâs be honest⌠this is the same song and dance playing out every. single. seasonâŚ
Players pointing out the exact. same. thing. every. seasonâŚ
Youâre asking for balance for the top 20k tank characters⌠Out of multiple millions of tank characters. You literally are.
No iâm not
Id let it go. He plays semantics and is always moving goal posts lol