END War Mode!

This is either part of some elaborate troll job, or you’re just on a lot of serious drugs.

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Uhhh, I’m not stupid. You’re a Paladin. I know exactly how good you had it…

I hate to play the egotistical card…I really do…but my world kills alone are more than twice your total honorable kills. I suspect you don’t know too much period. :slight_smile:

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I hate to say that I don’t know you well enough to take your claim at face value. I’ve been past the 50k mark account wide on HKs and in a few months I could get 10k urban HKs and get that “Third Prestige” lol.

So obviously most of my HKs have been in BGs, because even WPvPers have chores to do.

*But this has nothing to do with my refusal to ever play Leg and BFA WPvP on Classic. I wouldn’t even do it on a private server. I just remember the abject misery that a Paladin may or may not remember. Since they had it better than Hunters in those days I wasn’t forcing you to understand.

“You wouldn’t get it.”

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Not sure what the hell you just said, but I’ll leave it at that. :slight_smile:

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HAHA!

You’re trying to put me in a position where I’m supposed to believe that your open-world HKs are twice of either this toon’s total HKs or this account’s total HKs and you can’t comprehend what I’m saying?

You DO understand that BGs were relatively early in the game’s history. You would not have done more open-world kills than you would have done BG kills, so let’s emphasize on this more: you could just spam BGs all the day. I’ve dabbled in BGs when TBC was Retail for the same reason I have done even now in SL: to get gear.

And that’s fine if people live for that sort of thing, but I don’t. I’m a ganker. I’m not a pillar humper or an honor buddy. We’re all what we liken ourselves.

It doesn’t matter because I have no price for Leg and BFA. I can’t be bought for them. I’m not going to budge on this for anyone or anything.

:clown_face:

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Your total honorable kills are listed at 26k. I have 57k world kills. And I don’t even “care” about wpvp.

You are just straight up nuts.

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You’re just as nuts for thinking I’m going to magically respect your argument, and this is assuming you had one. By the way, I was implying that I need to see some EVIDENCE of this 57k open-world kills. You need to link me pictures that can show me you didn’t just get these mostly in BGs.

I wasn’t there when Crossroads and Tarren Mill was the way to do ANY PvP before BGs, since I came in right at the same time of BGs. I can’t really help that, but you also have to understand that was 17 years ago. I did it once or twice when I was still a noob in the high 40’s.

There is a big difference: I’m coming up close to 10k open-world kills IN THE CITY. How many HKs did you get in cities? If you haven’t even gotten your first 1,000 HKs I don’t even want to stare in your direction. So if that were true, you got your open-world kills when it was easy. So congrats on jumping on the bandwagon when years later I was Johnny-come-lately who broke ground when WPvP was multirealm.

*I’ll leave this here to help you understand how I see your WPvP experience. It must be nice to enjoy WPvP like going to Bull and Finch Pub.

You’ve got achievements going back as far as 2008…

Your account total kills are less than 60k.

Just saying it’s hard to take anything you say seriously.

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Yeah, well…some of us had JOBS and CAREERS. Some of us also played other video games too.

*But if you also want to play Leg and BFA on Classic because the WPvP was “so good” in the days they were Retail Lluagor, that’s fine with me. If you’ve already decided not to take me seriously, how am I more convinced this is what I want to do? I just don’t see that happening with me. I’m too old in life to be doing something because I have friends or “friends” that got me into it. You had a better chance with me like that in my early 20’s.

Don’t tell me that I’m supposed to relive my worst days at the pleasure of some here, like a certain Paladin who had it good then and could just lord it over me with Judgments at range and so forth under the guise of “I can’t take you seriously” and “You don’t know what you’re talking about”.

Because me dying in WPvP to these people are the only real validation they supposedly get, when they feel powerful over the Hunter class, but my refusal to come back to those days is conflated with my ignorance and lack of distinction. Do you see how well I picked up on it?

It’s almost as if unless you sacrifice your fun and enjoyment to bolster theirs, fully at your expense, you would somehow “gain respect”. I know how the real world works and that’s not how you gain respect. You have to learn to respect yourself first.

I really want to go back to Cata-Mists-WoD for Classic. Those were my real former salad days.

I do. Legion WPvP was some of the worst wpvp i’ve ever participated in.

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280k or so honorable kills, 57k of which are world kills. I can’t “prove” the world kills part as stats can’t be looked up. But I assure you Jack, Nusk, Ruku, Zelse…or whatever name you choose to go by this week…you are nobody.

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Every character you have has a stats page where you can find it. I tallied up all mine as ~>50k total and 10.3k in open-world.

And you’re going to call me nobody for not meeting or exceeding your level of devotion. I don’t owe YOU anything for what I’ve done. Who the heck are YOU? You want to brag about the sweat and blood it took to outdo me in open-world HKs?

What sweat? What blood?

Those numbers pan out to me.

My character here, has a little under 100k hks just on it alone, and about 25k are world kills. So yeh. We’re similarish.

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I’m not. :frowning:

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Well no shiznit. Everyone can look up their own stats, but unless it’s an achievement, then no one else can.

You don’t have to believe me, but I’m telling you, I have 57k world kills across multiple shards and I have never, ever seen you anywhere.

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I’m not really questioning the possibility of a track record like what you have. Heh, heh. I’m questioning the DIFFICULTY. Your track record is not uncommon with those who were fortunate to start Vanilla WoW since launch and were savvy from other MMOs they played.

Well, I have just several hundred shy of 10k kills in Stormwind City, Ironforge, and Boralus, but I’ve never seen you anywhere. Hmm. I guess it’s because I don’t get Cenarians in my sharding. But you see, getting 10k HKs in cities took YEARS, from July 2015 to this present day. And given the status quo of WPvP, if Blizzard really doesn’t revolutionize WPvP next expansion you’d be hardpressed to get kills anywhere else but in the cities.

I broke new ground, achieving something NOBODY ELSE had done. And it has earned me infamy. I could give you a conservative estimate of the times I’ve been reported on. I can tell you the times my Bnet friends warned me to c&d because “GMs were watching”(which I laughed it off as a joke). I did enjoy a little fame and infamy back in the day, but that was back in the day. The community has changed a lot. A lot of people that did play in WoD and Leg are not here anymore.

The reason why I’ve said all this was because I didn’t have people like Snowcrest-Cenarius who posted in the forums or had a YouTube channel talking about WPvP and how to master WPvP. Since you didn’t care about WPvP that would make it worse for an ex-core raider warlock like myself who wanted to do something new. When I first started I didn’t have anybody as a mentor or coach. I had to teach myself in mid Warlords. Camouflage was a thing that existed since Cata for Hunters, but no Hunter I knew discovered its true potential. I already earned my first 2500 HKs in the city before this forum category existed, so I didn’t know who to talk with.

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Blizzards don’t push anyone to PvP now. You can literally side with alliance to do your chores in PvE content with warmode off. PvP is awesome and you specifically required to do annoying stuff to bring it on everytime you stop doing it (turn it on in Orgri/Storm).

I don’t see how it can bring you to cancel the sub over something you have no obligation to do or engage.

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I was going to quote everything else for truth, but I thought it would be more useful to nitpick this little thing.

You actually can’t get rid of gankers. You can get rid of PvP completely and you will still have players that get their enjoyment of the game from making others miserable. A healthy world PvP system (like wow had with rppvp servers) channels that play into something constructive for the game world, as opposed to gold scamming, or intentionally wiping groups on world bosses, or killing quest mobs, or sitting on the mailbox so people can’t click it, or trying to find ways to crash the server.

Gankers have the same gamer psychology as those people, but their activity is actually good for the game world when the world provides systems to support it.

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