End the war on solo gameplay in WoW

[Briandris-laughing-skull]

@Briandris-laughing-skull

I do play Skyrim and I enjoy it. I don’t love it though. I don’t plan out what I want to accomplish next time I play Skyrim while I’m making dinner. People talk about how WoW is “dead”. Even at it’s worst, the WoW open world is much more alive than Skyrim can ever be. That is because it’s an MMO. MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE. The world is ever-changing because it’s full of real people. NPC’s, no matter how elaborate their character/dialogue etc are, they are still static and predictable. Even if you are doing that mindless grind day after day, in exactly the same order, you will NEVER have the same experience twice in an MMO.

WoW used to have a magic to it, that I don’t feel anymore. I hear the question “WoW has never had any solo content why do you expect it now?”. There was crafting, fishing, collecting, farming and probably some I’ve missed. None of those activities were over the top fun, but they didn’t have to be because it just felt good to be in Azeroth. For me, it’s that simple.

I’ve already explained my perspective and I’ve been playing since the end of BC.

[Feltomydeath-herod]

@Avelpally-frostmourne

I agree. They have made the game WAY more casual/pug friendly since its origins. Thats why I get so confused when people try to say that they are “ruining the game” for casuals or solos or whatever. They have made it progressively better and people looking back have some serious rose tinted glasses on thats all.

I see that you simply read the first sentence of my response and ignored the rest. Cool.

[Pisaro-malfurion]

BC was a raid logging expansion. Retail is bad, no doubt about it, but there’s way more stuff to do in open world than there was then.

[Avelpally-frostmourne]

No I read it I just strongly disagreed with pretty much all of it so thought I would just mention the part I agree with.

[Feltomydeath-herod]

And yet you haven’t explained why you disagree with it beyond “nu-uh, that’s not true!”

[Briandris-laughing-skull]

Way more boring, unchallenging tedious things to do, yes there certainly is.

[Pisaro-malfurion]

Sure, but the BC dailies weren’t any harder or less tedious. Nothing can hold up when you do it day after day.

[Briandris-laughing-skull]

For me, it held up for years. Now it doesn’t.

[Pisaro-malfurion]

The BC dailies? Doing simon says and capturing nether rays isn’t particularly challenging. It’s about logging in twice a week for raiding. There’s nothing else to do in classic.

[Feltomydeath-herod]

@Pisaro-malfurion

Sure, but the BC dailies weren’t any harder or less tedious. Nothing can hold up when you do it day after day.

The thing about dailies is that, back then, they were new and exciting.

But we are now 15 years removed from when they were originally introduced, and Blizzard has done absolutely nothing to reinvent them. World quests are daily quests, except now you don’t have to turn them in, which is about as inventive as it has gotten.

Daily quests worked in TBC because they were new. They don’t work in Shadowlands because we’ve done them for eight expansions, and they all pan out the same.

[Pisaro-malfurion]

@Feltomydeath-herod

The thing about dailies is that, back then, they were new and exciting.

Maybe for a few days, but it’s same the dailies day after day and month after month. In retail you can get full epics by doing them. I’m not even sure what you get in BC…mounts?

[Avelpally-frostmourne]

@Feltomydeath-herod

And yet you haven’t explained why you disagree with it beyond “nu-uh, that’s not true!”

@Avelpally-frostmourne

I agree. They have made the game WAY more casual/pug friendly since its origins. Thats why I get so confused when people try to say that they are “ruining the game” for casuals or solos or whatever. They have made it progressively better and people looking back have some serious rose tinted glasses on thats all.

They have made the game better and better for casual players over time so idk why people make it out like they are making it worse.

[Feltomydeath-herod]

@Avelpally-frostmourne

They have made the game better and better for casual players over time

This is not an explanation. In what ways have they made it better?

[Antiman-bloodhoof]

@Avelpally-frostmourne

They have made the game better and better for casual players over time so idk why people make it out like they are making it worse.

I put one reason in another topic Avel:

@Antiman-bloodhoof

In some cases, it seems like the amount went up, but the quality went down.

It is not that there is not anything to do solo, but that the stuff they do have, due to the extreme on the other end is dull, boring, repetitive and feels unrewarding.

[Adilith-frostmourne]

@Feltomydeath-herod

This is not an explanation. In what ways have they made it better?

You havent played since vanilla have you?

[Feltomydeath-herod]

@Adilith-frostmourne

You havent played since vanilla have you?

I have, not that I need to prove that to you.

[Adilith-frostmourne]

must be the rose tinted glasses. Carry on

[Feltomydeath-herod]

Care to explain for him, then?

[Adilith-frostmourne]

don’t have to. You just proven my point. Funny you’re also posting on a classic toon

[Phibbus-farstriders (Phibbus)]

@Pisaro-malfurion

The BC dailies? Doing simon says and capturing nether rays isn’t particularly challenging.

And FFS, they even made Simon Says group content.