So now you shifted your argument to " they look similar so lets put them under high elves anyway.".
How about no.
Different races get different slots and get different models. Again, its just s thin veiled attempt to try and get high elves, and even worse, get a second race at the same time.
Arator and alodi both use different models because there is no need to make a brand new model for a race that is rare like half elves, who also play no prominent and repeated role.
This is why blues donât like coming to the forums.
The Alliance is doomed to have bad male models?
You understand thatâs on both factions, right? The majority of male models are weird shapes.
Also you understand that Void Elves have the same base model as blood elves, right? If you wanted a belf model so bad, play a void elf. Also what do you mean not allowed to have remotely normal looking male characters? Alliance has the majority of normal looking male characters.
(Statement): The pointlessness of arguing over species occurred to me when I realized that two different species who havenât even evolved on the same world can procreate as is (Orcs and Draenei), and therefor Warcraft does not follow any sense of evolution or biology on a level we understand.
(Commentary): Not really? My personal opinion is that the Void Elves shouldâve been the Silver Covenant. I cannot compute for the life of me why Blizzard went with some random group of Blood Elves instead. I actually think Half-Elves could be a smoother solution if two criteria were met. Firstly, a new model needs to be made for Half-Elves, and it has to be somewhere between Human and High Elf, which would be tricky. Secondly, 95% of all High Elf NPCs in game need to be replaced with the new Half-Elf model, and we are told that there were actually far more Half-Elves in the game world than we knew, but the High Elf model was always used for lack of an existing one. This would also mean the bulk of the Silver Covenant is also Half-Elves. Like, everyone except for Vereesa and a few other leader type figures. If those two criteria were met, I think High Elf players would need to be satisfied, since they finally get to embrace the fantasy of a Silver Covenant Elf.
The current Sunwell is factually/canonically a mix of holy and arcane energies, this means that yes some can revert back to blue since the Sunwell still has arcane energies.
Response: Such a thing has absolutely no baring on the current discussion. The design of the game is such that a different species or sub species gets its own slot.
Now, as for the half elves. I would be fine if theh received a new model. Perfectly fine with them as a new race.
On the other hand, I dont get where you heard there are a lot more half elves, let alone creating the majority of the SC.
There is no lore to my knowledge suggesting such a thing.
Half elves are their own species due to a different appearance and genetics. The entire response is simply a red herring.
The Horde is in much better shape for dude characters with more âaverageâ or rogue/caster like builds. Youâve got trolls (both varieties), undead, blood elves, basement elves, goblins, and vulpera where Alliance only has (mecha)gnomes and void elves.
Void elf skin tones are vivid blues and purples that are a massive pain in the rear to transmog with. A lot of outfits thatâd work fine on most other characters clash horribly with them and require you to hide every inch of skin to work. If Blizz gives them more subdued tone options like night elves and trolls have, theyâd be reasonable, but thatâs not happening soon with Shadowlands customization boosts be core race only.
Human males are turbo-roided and have no wrists, draenei males are frequently referred to as refrigerators, nelf males are jacked with an hourglass figure (wut), void elves are neon blue, and mechagnomes have the often-posted-about limb problems. That leaves with the two variants of dwarves (which are jacked but at least feel proportional) and and regular gnomes if you want a male character.
Sorry, I had to be sad for a moment because someone thinks that internet arguments ever end. Our descendants will be beating that vaguely discolored patch of ground where there was once a horse long after weâre all dead and gone.
(Commentary): The idea would be to replace the bulk of the High Elf NPCs in game with Half-Elves. The idea being, players always wanted to play as these, well, they were always this. A lot of players who want High Elves want to continue the stories and fantasies in the Alliance centered around and through the High Elf NPCs we see, the most notable being, as an example, the Silver Covenant, although we also see some in the 7th Legion or sprinkled around cities now and then as well.
(Commentary): It should also be noted that Humans and High Elves have been procreating over 3,000 years, so logically there should be far more Half-Elves than we see, perhaps even more than High Elves. The biggest population center for Half-Elves should logically be Dalaran, which is a city that has always had human and elven peoples intermingling. By that bit of lore, it is a logical conclusion that most High Elves in Dalaran are, to some degree, a Half-Elf, and this would also apply to the Silver Covenant.
(Conclusion): In short, one could uphold the old, âthere are too few High Elves to be playable,â by making the bulk of the High Elves we see into Half-Elves, while simultaneously giving players requesting High Elves what they want; the fantasy of a Silver Covenant/Alliance Elf.
You are right. The high elves part of the alliance were not exiled for refusing to partake in the practices of blood elves. They were exiled after the second war when they refused to return to quelâthelas as they wish to remain part of the alliance.
You have the most âremotely normal looking male charactersâ in regards to their models. You disliking skin color or whatever doesnât matter in context of ânormal looking male charactersâ models.
Complaining about alliance not getting a second belf model and therefore not having normal looking dudes is a joke.
Except that it is stated half breeds are rare because though for 3k years humans and high elves associate, it was considered taboo. Probably because elves live so much longer than humans.
Id rather half elves be ALL half breed types. More customization options
OK, this is a nearly forty-year-old AD&D homebrew thing, so you can believe as much or as little of this as you like. Once upon a time, for reasons that seemed good at the time, I decided that the product of a half-elf/half-elf union would be a human 25% of the time, an elf 25% of the time, and a half-elf 50% of the time. And as time goes on, that ends up being the population mix of a âhalf-elfâ town.
Again, buy as much or as little of that as you want. I was mainly helping a friend concoct an excuse for saying that his human, half-elf, and elven characters were related.
(Commentary): I believe this is mostly an RPG thing. I donât imagine those kinds of couplings were uncommon, but keep in mind thereâs no lore to suggest Half-Elves themselves cannot procreate either. Regardless, thereâs probably more Half-Elves out there than we realize. They just donât have their own model so they either use the Human or Elven one.
Yeah, this didnt happen either. The high elves were never exiled. There is no story where lorthemar exiles them. In fact, during the nightborne quest he blatantly states all children of quelthalas are welcome to their birth right.
The only exiles were quel lithien who cause a schism, and even they were offered aod and a chance to return.
High elves simply never went home for their own reasons and choose not to return. Vereesa states it herself
Doesnât have to be a belf model. A Stromgarde slim human allied race or some kind of half elf with a new model or something would work just as well, but Blizzard seems very reluctant to add races like that to the Alliance.