Enable Dual spec NOW

No thanks.

Yeah trust me, if you give people Dual Spec they aren’t going to suddenly accomplish great feats, they are just going to get to play more of the game they pay 15 a month for in our already time-starved lives. It is solely sought after for quality of life, not for power…or to be better, because it doesn’t grant either of those things. It only grants quality of life and does not at any time cause less engagement to the gameplay aspect, it encourages more. that is what we want.

The comment is being taken way to literally.

It was satire which doesn’t come across well in text. I am millennial, but I do see hundreds of other millenials with that exact mindset I was making a parody of. I can farm 50 gold in less than 30 minutes. Not everyone can do that with as much ruthless efficiency so thats why I put under an hour. If 1 hour is to big of a barrier for you then you are a solution in search of a problem. You are the problem.

It’s impossible to know for sure without Blizzard doing a poll. But I agree with the op on not waiting. IF this is something the majority of players want, don’t wait. Do a poll and find out if players want it. Don’t wait until no one cares anymore to tackle the problem. Even if that results in a Blue post saying “No we aren’t going to implement this” it’ll at least stop the endless arguing on the subject in both in-game and on the forums.

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It’s not Difficult work, or skilled work, but it fits the definition of what an older generation would call “hard work” or “an honest days work”. It’s the joy of not being able to have something instantly. To have tasks that you know will reward you if you put the time in.

I understand where the other poster is coming from, this is part of “the journey” and something that many of us legitimately enjoy. Even if we have jobs and kids etc, we can point at what we’ve accomplished and know that we put some good time investment in because we love the game.

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You wanted TBC, you got TBC. Dont complain when you get what you ask for.

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I’m not a zoomer. I just want to have a healing spec for dungeons and raids and a dps spec for questing and farming. I’m thinking of not going resto on my druid because questing is too painful in that spec. It affects the number of tanks too. Every thread about the lack of tanks and healers should go right to the lack of dual specs

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That’s actually a good point and frankly it’s been about since the original BC that I did any PvP of a serious nature. I remember at the time the outcry for this and for other aspects later addressed in resilience-gear etc.

I guess we’ll see if Blizzard feels the pressure and implements this and/or other changes some are advocating for as well.

I think we’re all overlooking the real issue here:

Why doesn’t the talent window have a confirm changes button? You mean in 2021 I can’t fill in my talent points and revert them if I make a mistake or misclick?

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Says the boomer who got so worked up on forums? I agree with you. Although the IDEA of dual spec sounds fun… I don’t think it’s necessary when we can kill 20 mobs in Outland for 50g to respec. Plus it wasn’t in the original TBC… but that argument seems like a meme and a shadow of its former self now with boosts and mounts being added.

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I’m leveling as feral Druid and then switching to resto once I hit max level. Then from there dailies etc shouldn’t be too bad as resto, certainly not as bad as leveling up 60-70 as resto.

Even if everyone has the most perfect reasonably sound arguments for it, the chances of Blizzard actually introducing dual spec into TBC is probably very close to 0%. Only because Classic Wrath is most certainly happening in ~two years which is when dual spec was first introduced… Same as the barber shop

No dual spec, you need to commit.

the solution to this is easier than you think. gaming has got to a point where everybody is obsessed with maximum efficiency and min maxing. if you want to do that while leveling then you need to put in the work to make sure you have networked with enough people to always be able to find a group to heal dungeons, or to respec often.

but here’s the truth, you don’t need to do that. you can heal normals well enough in a Balance / Resto hybrid build (and holding on to some key pieces of healing specific gear while you level), you don’t really need to respec into a specialized tree until heroics.

Tanks are the same, in fact if you are decently geared the paladin prot-ret levelling build could potentially be faster leveling than just straight ret, and works well enough in normal dungeons.

this is the exact thing that DS kills that many of us want to preserve, a wide build diversity that gives us way more options to play the character we want to play.

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Can you show where you got your “99% of us” statistic?

I’ve played the game from vanilla to BfA. I know the solutions and how they play in the game. I don’t like healing with a weak spec or questing with a low dps spec. The solution I’m probably going to take is not healing dungeons on my druid. It’s the same solution many warriors take too. So when dps complains about a lack of tanks and healers they should look at the main reason why.

Funnily enough, I actually tanked Stockades and Gnomeregan on my hunter because it was easier than finding an actual tank.

shrugs sure, you do you. These dungeons were designed to be healed and tanked without needing to be in full heal / tank gear and spec, if you want to be in full spec that’s your choice, but it’s a little silly to be mad that the game doesn’t make that choice convenient when you have another option. guess I would rather deal with a lack of tanks and healers. if you played through Vanilla to BFA you doubtless recall that it could take a bit of work in Vanilla and TBC to get a dungeon group together. this obsession to dungeon spam till at least honoured to level is another quirk of a gamer mindset that obsesses over maximum efficiency. if people are stuck at HFR or BF for hours looking for a group when they could be questing (which was very possible last night from my experience) then that is a problem of their own making.

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some of my fondest memories were through making due with hunter pet tanks, blueberry tanks, a random plate wearer, etc. was it a pain? sure, but do I remember any specific heroic dungeon that went smoothly? not really. I like to count my experience in stories I can retell, that is what makes a good RPG / MMORPG for me.

I mean, I can get how dual spec could have prevented me from enjoying the fun that was hunter tanking in low level dungeons, it’s why I’m in favor of a compromise rather than just adding dual spec directly, even if I prefer dual spec as a whole.

and my pet was only tanking one monster, my hunter was the real chad tanking everything else, including bosses. :sunglasses: Healer even said it was easier to heal than actual tanks.