Is it obvious? Where do you draw the line?
I obviously disagree with you, I am sure many others would aswell.
It boils down to your innate hatred of gdkps I imagine. If you replace gdkp with a ethnicity, you would be a fascist.
Replace GDKP with wow token.
You canât defend GDKPâs as the source of your gold, and then turn around and say the wow token is bad. The wow token just wastes less of my time. The gold comes from the same bots.
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I donât think comparing the hatred of a type of organized grouping which can have ties to RMT to the skin colour or nationality of someone is appropriate. Nobody can determine where theyâre born or the colour of their skin, but you can choose not to participate in GDKPs.
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Then you donât see the point of the comparison.
Clearly not, as itâs wildly different in terms of severity.
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The hatred given from others, the view as lesser, evil or corrupted. That is the point.
Biased perspective.
it seems few can keep up with this topic, so I will not delve further into it.
it is afterall, a derail from the thread topic.
It really isnât. It would be an interesting experiment sure⌠but this is an MMORPG currency is part of it. Like realistically if you want BGs and Arena without gold go play Smite, Paladins, Overwatch, Apex, etc. You want dungeons and raiding⌠Well you have me there as I donât know a game off the top of my head that does something similar. Monster Hunter maybe⌠that is mutliplayer boss fights. Maybe Warframe? Yeah Warframe would fit the bill. Go play Warframe or Destiny.
You donât change one game to be another game.
and now⌠I feel you donât understand how RMT works⌠or where the gold comes from. Please tell me you know the gold from the WoW Token doesnât just appear out of nothing right?
Yep, because I actually like playing this game. So earning gold via GDKP would be good for a person who likes raiding. Farming works for people that donât raid. Same for Arena carries. It works for people who like to pvp. Each has its own group of people that it supports to make gold in some form.
Whether that is good for the game is another topic, but to say it isnât fun to someone is just 100% false.
This⌠you donât put a bandaid over a bullet wound and call it healed.
Well⌠Diamonds themselves are absolutely worthless. People just get scammed into paying a lot.
and if GDKP is corrupt because some of the gold is RMT. Then we would have to get rid of the entirety of WoW because it will always be corrupt in some form. No online multiplayer game should exist by this logic.
Yes, they did⌠what do you think a Glaive drops every week? No, it doesnât. They did weeks of GDKP for that one item to drop⌠then bid the gold they got from weeks of GDKP to get the item. That is how it works.
I am really starting to think you think gold from GDKP just disappears or that they are all run by gold sellers and think that all the gold used in a GDKP go to the host. Who then sells that gold back to the people coming to give back to them to resell back to the people coming in an infinite loop.
This isnât how it works GDKP players are the least likely to RMT⌠Why? Because they donât need to. They already have the gold. It is raid/arena loggers who are the most likely to RMT.
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Yeah I donât know server you play on, but day one of week one had multiple glaives being purchased at over 45k on Grobb.
Maybe you donât know where the gold comes from? It comes from bots. And people buying gold from said bots. That is why they exist. I have friends who botted on multiple accounts just to see how long it would take them to get banned. It took months, and untold thousands of gold later.
You guys are hilarious when you pretend GDKPs arenât part of the problem just so you can try to feel better about yourselves.
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Itâs still a bad comparison, as itâs fully voluntary to go into GDKP, and itâs just a raid type in a game.
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Thatâs just an opinion. Clearly mine is different than yours.
I am not so easily offended or feel the need to be offended for others.
Goodnight.
Yes⌠because those rogues had previously done years of MC, BWL, AQ40, Naxx, Kara, Magruuls, SSC, and TK GDKPs yo build up that gold.
What do you think gold resets every tier? It doesnât.
You have confirmed you have absolutely no idea where gold comes from nor how we got to where we are.
First of all the majority of the gold didnât come bots. It came from players. During the first 4 phase of Classic player were raw farming gold out of their rear ends. Add on we have dozens of times the amount of players that original WoW did⌠that leads to a lot of gold being generated. By players playing. Much more so than bots.
Because the average player now had this disposable income due to the sheer volume of the player base. GDKPs began to happen. Of course, it didnât immediately take off. You couldnât earn much because people werenât spending ridiculous amounts and it was getting split 40 ways. However, as the amount of gold in the server grew from the number of players, playing. A new service came about⌠the mage and paladin boosters and farmers. They earned a lot of gold via boosting characters and farming runecloth (which surprise generated a ton more raw gold to inject into the economy!). These players then started to take advantage of the GDKPs. Gearing out their alts very quickly by buying everything they wanted. This then resulted in their wealth being spread out to everyone else. Which then resulted in more boosting. This continued. The amount of gold and characters generating that gold increased. Until the point where GDKPs were the best way to earn gold for someone who wasnât a Mage that knew how to boost.
None of this is even considering the changes that TBC brought in. With more raw gold⌠or the fact that when phase 5 hit. The average player could generate 10k raw gold a week. Without touching any group content. Wrath⌠is going to make that worse. Making it so the average player can make around 25k a week. Without interacting with a single other player.
and all of this isnât even considering that entire realms gold got merged together due to fleeing players.
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This doesnât seem like OG WotLK or in the spirit of WotLK.
All of the original data is available regarding OG WotLK.
There is no reason or justification to have any changes. WotLK Classic needs to have progressive patches, and be on the timeline as OG WotLK.
No excuses.
#nochanges.
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When you order âWrath of the Lich Kingâ on Wish.
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Forced? Just donât get those badges?
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âYou think you want Classic, but you donâtâ
âAlso we are going to make game objectively worse and change a bunch of things that no one asked for, while simultaneously ignoring all feedback and not doing anything about the actual main problemsâ
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Please stop ignoring us. Revisit LFD and add it please.
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Makes sense, appreciate the clarification on it.
Another interesting piece of technology introduced in wotlk was RDF.
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âYou think you do but weâll make sure you never do again.â
People will be âdoneâ with dungeons once people realize they can do Naxx in half quest blues. Itâs not like original Wrath where you did quests for blues, dungeons for better blues, heroics for purples to do Raids for better purples.