Embers of Neltharion Upgrade System Overview

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Devs would find a way to make it complex. You arent getting super easy mechanic dungeons just like that with good rewards.

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Blizzard needs to understand that simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. A system this complex for the end user can’t be good. Less is more.

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What the hell is wrong with people at this company?

Introduce one kind of crest.
Have it earnable from multiple sources.

Done.

You’ve literally made work for yourselves.

Jesus Christ the Jira board for this crap must look like a god-damn nightmare.

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All that word salad and they are still overlooking the gear re-aquisition problem.
Let loot tiers/tracks be upgradeable so the terrible loot rng doesn’t kill people’s will to play. I’ve legit never seen a ragefeather drop this season. Only seen 4 whetstones drop after however many COS keys I’ve run. Pretty sure I can tank NO in my sleep now.
This was the upside to “degenerate” low key valor farming. We could blast the dungeons that much quicker, and in some cases have enough valor stored up by the time the item actually dropped to upgrade it to a useful level.
Overlooking that obvious problem is typical Blizz. Don’t be typucal Blizz, be better.

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and yet you still reached your seasonal goals, like ksm, aotc, …, without these drops?

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Why oh why must you make everything soooooo complicated? If you replaced ‘shadowflame crest fragments’ with ‘valor fragments’ your system would look, feel and be so much better and simpler.

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LMFAO what?

Just have raid gear be upgradable like m+ gear was. That’s all you needed to do… but instead you create this ridiculously convoluted system?

Why? No wonder things that people want never happen… you’re too busy creating ridiculous things that NO ONE cares for.

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Yikes some of these replies are insane.

System looks great. Excited.

TLDR

  1. Do content
  2. Get currency
  3. Get gear
  4. Visit item upgrade NPC

Have enough to upgrade?
Great

Don’t have enough to upgrade?
Repeat steps 1 and 2.

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i made an entire post about this to remind the devs on the ptr forums. They waste tons of time duplicating work that doesnt need to done instead of engaging in minor tweaks to systems thats already exist and function well. Valor easily could have been perfected instead of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

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The problem is step 3.
Everyone espousing the merits of this new system seems to overlook step 3 is the problem that never gets solved.

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How is “getting gear” the problem?

More ways now than ever before to get gear

Raid
M+
Pvp
Weekly vault
Weekly events
World quest
Rares
World events
Crafted

Like literally do anything and you will get gear, and that gear will now be able to be upgraded.

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73

look at it like this

  1. choose what content you want to do
  2. get the currency
  3. use the currency specific to that content and upgrade.

ex:a. I plan on may 2-8th… main questline… ( i will tryto complete it with get your 8 done )
b. as soon as may 9th hits… ( if there no delays) im jumping right into normal/heroic raids(10/25)…
c. then upgrade…(btw) your dont have the gear this way…
d. do the weekly and world quests on the side
e. my ultimate goal get to ilvl 441 on or before season 3…

here the breakdown;(RAIDS)

LRF RAID=VETERN=402-411
NORMAL=CHAMPION=415-424
HEROIC=HERO=428-434

LFR=WHELPLINGCREST
NORMAL=DRAKES CREST
HEROIC = WRYMS CREST.

YOU WILL NEED MIN 4 CREST TO UPGRADE ONE PIECE
what i dont know is how many fragments make up one crest
** I think its 10 but im not sure*

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I figured “gear you want” was understood. The Whetstone and the Icon you’re using – if instead you just got random trinkets from all that content you listed you’d be fine upgrading those? And not caring about trying to get the trinkets you actually want?

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Oooh you just want a gear vendor.

I don’t think it’s really needed tbh.

Obviously anything from m+ can be farmed.

Hunting a specific raid piece can be challenging but it will actually be easier in season 2 considering you could get it from a lower difficulty and upgrade it which wasn’t possible in season 1.

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I just want a solution to the problem of running tons of dungeon instances for a single piece. Just curious, how many times did you run CoS before you got that whetstone? Did you get it at a low key and valor it to 415, or get it from the vault?

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Idr exactly cause I got it pretty early on.

I know I’ve passed on a couple in vault since I already had it.

Had it drop for me and traded it a couple times.

In total I’ve probably seen like 6-9 of them over the course of the season.

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Its a simply system that you people are making overcomplicated for no reason. It’s a system that is used in many mmo’s and has been used for decades.

I welcome the change. I hated having the funds to upgrade gear but not the idiotic rating because the rating system is locked down to meta builds.

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Why insist on copying the worst parts of FF14?

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Am I reading this as alts have reduced need for the currency if your main is a higher item level? If so, that is a nice boost to alts.

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Some employees need to justify their existence on their workplace hence this upgrade system.

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