Embers of Fyr'alath Empowered - February 20

Please go touch some grass, it’s ok to feel bad about the syst but this whole “not wanna log in after 15 years” is taking it a bit far

Get some fresh air!

Why is it a bit far? It’s how I feel. For some people, their pastime is fishing or hunting - I enjoy playing wow. It is what it is. Sorry you disagree with my feelings, but that doesn’t change them.

I’m pushing 26’s on my main - without the leggo. I’m at a point where the community perception would just rather take the guy with the axe, than me. I don’t blame them…but there’s nothing I can do about it.

With this “buff” and then another ember this week - yeah, I really feel like I got kicked while I was already down.

All the while a random guy in LFR just kills Fyrakk once, and gets the axe? Get outta here. I’ve been patient. Pretending it isn’t an issue - or insulting the people who are here sharing their true feelings about it - isn’t helpful. You’re just trolling.

Also - going forward into season 4 - if it is upgrade-able - what happens to us when re-progging stuff? That’s just so terrible to even imagine. We’ve already written off one season. Now we may potentially have to write off a nice start to the next one?

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The next legendary should be a flat low % drop chance with no BLP and it drops in group loot so guilds can decide who it goes to to leave it rare. And the raid also contains a second cantrip weapon of that weapon type (something this raid was missing for 2h str).

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We’ve been clearing Fyrakk since November 17 and have seen 0 of the legendary.

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yep same so lame

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Yeah fine - make it for casters - and make sure you balance them around having it too.

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The “balanced around” is an old meme at this point.

Like 10 other specs also needed buffs, what legendary were/are they “balanced around” again?

A caster legendary, or 1h or 2h agility legendary should probably be next. Or a healer legendary.

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I hope we see drops tonight. I think we have 4 people who want it, so far 1 got it. I want to take a break from raiding untill Season 4, but I feel bad and feel that I have to stick around as a healer to help team members obtain their item. It feels bad to see week after week the disappointment.

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Legendaries do not reflect any display of excellence in any challenging content. A RNG drop is not an actual skill progression nor is it a true reward as the legendary will be null and void come the next expansion. There’s nothing legendary about legendaries in WoW.

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Exactly, this would only be true if it was a mythic only 100% drop lol

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TL;DR: RNG doesn’t prove any effort, it’s bad design. Legendaries should begin and end with a questline like the old legendaries (shadowmourne/daggers from cata). Please also fix the evoker legendary BLP. Please, explain and make it clear the numbers of the drop rate and BLP. Please, don’t ever make legendaries RNG ever again.

RNG will never be able to be “a surer path to achieving a goal”. It’s extremelly frustrating and I almost quit playing WoW during season 2 out of extreme frustration from the evoker legendary (which I didn’t get at all even after 17 Heroic kills during that season and even now). I am sure many players felt or feel the same way. Right now the feeling of finally dropping the legendary must be more like a bad feeling like “finally this sh*t dropped…” rather than a good feeling like “great, I got it after hours of effort into it, my effort is being paid off”, how it should be…

This RNG is even more frustrating when you are a “main” with the class, playing with it for many and many hours, for example in my case which I played Evoker since day 1 of this expansion… And then you see a random alt with no gear and low time spent into the class dropping the legendary… NO Blizzard, you didn’t achieve that goal of making legendary a “special reward demonstrating a display of excellence, etc” because the design is extremely bad… RNG doesn’t prove anything about effort or excellence, it’s just luck and it’s super far away from the idea you are trying to say that you wanted for legendaries…

Blizzard, can you please also look into the Evoker legendary to also allow the evokers to get their leggo, looking both into Season 4 possible legendary upgrade (like the Sylvannas bow) and into transmog/achievement for obtaining it, which is also something that players like. Since I don’t think you would change how the legendary is obtained at this point, you could make the BLP for evoker leggo to work just like Fyr’alath’s BLP, while also keeping the BLP already achieved during season 2, of course.

Finally, PLEASE don’t make legendaries RNG EVER AGAIN. Legendaries are supposed to take time, to take effort into the class/character to obtain, not just stupid and frustrating RNG. Also, how the BLP works isn’t clear at all, we don’t know how much the drop rate of the legendaries actually is, how much the BLP increases it and if it even works (we just have to trust blizzard’s word, which frustrated people simply can’t)… It’s stupid and extremely disrespectful with the players to keep this information a secret… An item that’s meant to be special and to demonstrate a display of excellence or display of effort should have a clear way/path to be obtained and be guaranteed to be obtained by those who actually put the effort into it.

One possible solution is to make legendaries more like the old legendaries (like shadowmourne from WotLK, the staff and daggers from cataclysm), where you had to follow a questline, work with your group/guild to get the items necessary, clear the whole raid (not just last boss), put time and effort into it and you had a clear and guaranteed way to obtain it, and it was way more fun to obtain and to see the questline unfold rather than now (for example, I haven’t seen the evoker legendary questline unfold even now because I want to play throught it, not to see others play it… So that makes another frustration, not seeing the legendary questline for a long long time…).

Edit: To complete the “possible solution” opinion above, to obtain a legendary, it would also be fun to have a quest that requires you to beat some kind of challenge scenario by using the class’s mechanics, something that would require that the player actually knows the class (something like mage tower or the challenge to obtain fel fire from warlocks back in pandaria).

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Please do another hotfix for those that killed Fyrakk prior to this hotfix…

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Why in the world was this hotfix not applied on reset??? Those of us that login on reset because its the ONE thing we are looking forward to each week are randomly punished? Seriously?

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^ This. I managed to get the rogue daggers in Cata and that felt good. Weeks of grinding materials in raid, solo scenarios that actually used the classes mechanics. That is how I think Legendaries should be.

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I completely agree! To obtain a legendary, it should also be necessary to know the class and to beat some kind of challenge by using the class mechanics (something like mage tower, maybe?). I’ll add that to the my main comment.

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Right?

God forbid they did it on the Tuesday maintenance.

So glad I did all my kills yesterday :upside_down_face:

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why are we buffing this only for people who don’t have the axe? how about people who have it?

i don’t play a char that can use the legendary. what are you doing for me?

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I just killed Fyrakk with 19 plate users and not a single axe dropped. At least 12 of us had multiple fyrakk kills and lesser embers

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after a Tuesday lol. glad i killed heroic on two characters already before this change was implemented.

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Actually unbelievable that they put in a hotfix with SIGNIFICANT increases in drop rate HOURS after reset.
You screwed so many people over that did the raid within the first few hours of reset.

Un-f’in-believable how incompetent you people are. I can’t imagine a single reason why Microsoft kept you brainlets on during the last wave of firings.

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