What I don’t get is, if the best gear comes from endgame, then what do you do with the gear you get from the highest level dungeons after you complete them? Seems like you should get the best gear first before the highest dungeons so you can defeat the highest level dungeons. Seems they have it backwards. Unless it’s just to show off the gear?
I don’t get it. 
9.1.5 was completely casual ( World or non power activituies ) stuff QOL so saying they didnt do anything for casuals isnt right ,what you can say is too little too late . And as far as leavers dont get bothered much as wow will still be wow no matter how many peoples left 
If you work 60 hours a week as you claim, and “work” in WoW then you are deluding yourself if you think you are spending any actual time with your family whatsoever. 
I repeat…
What do you want to do after finishing leveling if you don’t want to Raid or do M+ from a PVE perspective. I know you aren’t talking PVP since you reference FF as the bees knees.
I guess you don’t run Dungeons or Raid in FF either?
Do you guys have teleprompters or scripts?
Every thread like this it’s copy and paste of tired strawman replies
To which you will answer
“You can’t give me an example durrrrrrrr”
Doubt it’s just elitists that are quitting this game lol.
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Feel free to inspect my achievements (and lack thereof) if you want to see where I’m spending (and not spending) my time. It definitely won’t give you the whole story of how I approach MMOs, but it might help open your imagination a little.
( just wanted to add that I don’t think anything is served by trying to create divisions within the playerbase … no matter how different our playstyles, we’re all here together )
let’s soo how the bads do with the game now that the elite players in shining armor are departing…
The 1%(which is way more than that btw) dont unsub every time they run out of casual content or the patch stales, or they dont get their freebies they so much want.
I’d say that has pretty much happened.
It’s a simple question. Why is it so hard to answer? Deflecting the question doesn’t really help your case.
I don’t think WOW is perfect and I disagree with many of the design choices but I know what I like to do in the games I play. Don’t you?
Thats right. I have always defined casual the same way. I dont do any organized group activities, and yet i log over 4k minutes a week, from Monday-Sunday. Thats what i define as casual. We are leaving the game in record numbers, and it is sad.
I am not kidding, you are lucky to find 10 players in Korthia on a Tuesday, and lucky to find 4 any other day, and thats at all the peak times!
“Elitists are quitting”
Elitists are toxic.
In the end, it’s a game. Pixels and computer code. It’s all make believe and meant to be entertaining. No video game maker can make everyone happy or proud. I took a five year break from the game until the end of September of this year. I love the game. However, I know that it’s just a game. My happiness and sense of self is not tied to the game. I have a life in the real world. When I first started playing in 2008, there were haters and critics. Thirteen years later there are still hater’s, prophecies of doom, and there are people who love the game. There must be something special about the game for it to last 17 years and publish nine expansions.
Drink it in folks start at 48 sec in
Yoshi P taking the time to thank everyone for the best community award that FFXIV just won.
WoW would never ever win that not on it’s best day
Humility is the difference, Devs actually playing the game is the difference.
You can scream weeb rant about how much you hate anime…that isn’t the point.
An 11 year old game is eating Blizzards lunch.
And the exodus continues.
Dude. That’s not casual. You play more hours a week than most people work. Maybe it’s a good thing that you’re quitting since it seems WOW has become all consuming in your life.
This.
60 hours a week is NOT casual.
Who gave out this award even? Reddit?
I am almost 60 and totally disabled. Total spinal failure. Im lucky if i can ride my motorcycle next season, thats my real passion. But its looking like a trike kit is in my very, very near future.
as someone sees themself as both an elitist, and a casual (an elite-casual, if you will) i can tell you… game does’nt feel as fun as it used to be. i blame class design and scaling.
class design is either is back-and-forth on quality from my pov. to use a food metaphor, it’s like mashed potatoes. some classes feel like eating mashed potatoes, while others feel like mashed potatoes with a little gravy. neither really feel all that spectacular, but some feel better than others.
and scaling… i’m iffy on. it sort-of works, all the fights feel like… well, a fight, but… it also kills any feeling of progress since everything you fight, is on an even footing with you, from the boars outside orgrimmar, to demon-generals of the burning legion.
like, it’s good for chromie time, but… at max-level enemies feel overtuned until you get some decent gear… so the moment you hit cap, you don’t feel very powerful.
but again, these are just my opinions.