Elitists are quitting, leaving the casual in a game they didn't want

My money is on break.
Blizz hasn’t a clue anymore.

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A lot of businesses fall into this category. People running things have lost the script. The first rule of any business is to know who you’re catering to and don’t piss them off. Blizzard has become like a lot of corporations. They spend so much time online that they’ve forgotten who actually plays their games. Most people aren’t liberal arts and psychology/sociology majors. They’re regular people that grew up listening to rock and roll and trying to see a breast on Skinemax (or its equivalent.)

Get back to basics and make games for the inner degenerates in all of us.

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Funfact:

All the elitist content is just casual content with harder settings.

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Furthermore, guys like Ion are essential to making games. Nerdy guys that love making and solving puzzles. I’m glad he exists.

But guys like Ion are not the life of the party. Guys like Chris and Samwise are what make the world fun. Guys like Ion are just part of the spiderweb of talent that are necessary to make the game. No one is most important, but for heaven’s sake don’t forget the testosterone.

Your general discussion colleagues said this too in BfA for 9.0, before SL came out

It gets tiring after repeating that slogan year after year

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You can literally get 233 gear not setting foot in the raid. That’s basically heroic equivalent…

Remember during BfA when people were DEMANDING that Shadowlands release immediately, no matter what state it was in?

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Oh yeah I remember this too well like yesterday

General Discussion always play innocent when pointed out what was said in the past

The other day about a WoD thread, some people got upset that I pointed out what the colleagues of the past said about WoD even though they thought WoD was “the holy grail”

I’m sorry but Ion is overrated…he doesn’t care about the players, he brushes off the community…he is snotty as hell…there are also developers out there that design and code rings around him…they just refuse to work for a company like Blizzard

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You keep telling us that the only possible definition for “casual” is “time played”, and people who identify as “casuals” on the basis of content they play or their attitudes toward other players are wrong.

You are wrong.

The issue is that an MMO requires a literally massive number of players to remain profitable, given the costs of keeping one running. The way they have traditionally managed this issue is to give players enough fun content that they will invest in their characters, which gives them more reason to continue playing. When players stop seeing their characters as having a future in the game is when they leave to find a game that feels worth investing in.

Reducing the game to a series of spreadsheet metrics - and hiring a workforce for years that agrees it should be designed around this - has basically stripped that reason for playing from the game.

It’ll take more than curtailing of boosting to turn this game back into one people who left will want to come back to play. I think for many people boosting was a minor complaint behind things like chores and gearing issues.

For years now they have hired people who think that fun is not a consideration in making successful videogames that attract players. They measure “engagement” because “fun” is more difficult to define. It would require working with the playerbase to do basic research, and they abhor their playerbase.

At this point, most people would say that Shadowlands has broken the game. Only a few are refusing to accept the game is now having issues that devs appear unable to address.

So how is this supposed to translate into “nobody has left the game”?

“People”. Yeah, there are people who don’t understand the development cycle and how long it takes even under normal conditions to finish new content. That’s irrelevant, though. The majority do understand. You can feel free to treat that tiny minority as misguided trolls.

I recall you saying something about wod that was simply a matter of opinion and now you’re dubbing this “the holy grail”. You got called on that, but here you are claiming your opinion is the only possible right opinion.

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The problem is that you have to actually WORK to get it

See that’s already too much for this community :scream:

lol did you even watch this video?

Remember how despite the delay SL was still garbage at launch?

Nothing will really kill this game. It’s sort of like crack.

When you first went to the dealer they gave you the premium product. But now that you’re hooked they can cut it with baking soda, step on it, charge more and you’ll still come back and buy more.

That’s how Blizzard designs this game now and they’ll do the same thing in 10.0 and people will still play it.

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It’s so ironic that they made a game for the top tier players while the casuals are the heart of the game.

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I did. The video lists 4 categories that describe casuals, including…

  1. Time played;
  2. Difficulty of content played;
  3. Attitude toward the game and goals;
  4. Attitude toward other players.

He feels that attitude toward other players is the primary definer. The true “casual” is fine with how others play the game.

Your claim you have repeated many times is that only time played defines “casuals”. That is wrong. The idea that a person who identifies as a casual who plays a lot of easy content belongs to no category whatever so you can claim that mythic raid loggers are true casuals is self-serving.

You can lecture people on how to identify themselves as long as you feel like yelling into the wind.

You are like those people who take a Latin class in high school where they are taught that Latin is the perfect language, and spend the rest of their lives correcting people for using English grammar constructions that have been in common use for centuries.

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FFXIV and SWTOR are both about to release expansions and WoW is going to lose most or all of the casual players.

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Look grandpa…

I work at my job, I work when I volunteer No one that has a life wants to go through repetitive boring content for gear…most people would rather the gear was behind a story wall not a Raid or Daily wall.

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[Citation Needed]

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This is an MMO, best gear is from endgame content

If you wanted good gear from story telling go play a single player game and you can take much time as you want to get the good gear

Breath of the Wild would suit you better

Maybe the Witcher series too

I cite myself, I said it in the OP.