That is for Havoc, however, and is not universal.
Ever since the nerf, a variety of other essences have closed the gap, and passed CLF in some aspects.
The only reason CLF is so good, is because the other essences don’t provde havoc what it does not possess already.
Even if VoP was the best, it would suffer from diminishing returns due to the ability of havoc to meta through eye beam. CLF is good yes, but even on blood mallet it was not performing for a ret paladin as their best essence.
We digress,however, for as it stands, EV isn’t nearly as overpowered as CLF.
The only tanks utilizing it effectively are those such as havoc, bear, and BDK.
All three of which are high HP tanks that make use of the ability, and ironically, make up the shortcomngs they have though those essences.
I see no issue with EV and TD working so effectively on tanks.
Institute diminishing returns, sure, but I see no reason to neuter them when the circumstances requiring those corruptions to be so effective mandates having such high HP/
Nerfed for everyone now. But this whole broken system they came up with does favor tanks for sure. Basically everyone lost when they came out with corruption forging. It feels as if they might as well just give us npcs to do damage for us when the top damage for almost every log comes from an rng addon to gear. Just an abysmally awful idea to begin with.
You guys with the E.V. and the Stars and the tenticle thing, Was it not a rush, esp. paired up with Perfection? It was amazing! and seductive. That is where the real corruption takes root. So before, 19-20kdps, after 40k? And, do you with brains really for even one second think this was a big surprise to Blizz? This is like when Spirit Bomb first came out in Legion, and VDH’s were crushing the dps Classes in the Arena, and casually strolling through the Mage Tower. For Seven Days they were God Tier. Everybody likes Big numbers,big hits.The only mistake made is thinking you were going to get to keep it. Sorry., i think you knew, when scraping and clawing for dps, you could float on it… that it wouldn’t last. Tanking Class is Gimped Class.
Well, I’ve lost a bit of Urge to tank. I was starting to really get into it with my EV piece. Now that it literally started only hitting 400’s in large fights, it’s become pointless while I get corruption.
No thanks, think I am done. Not sure why people feel the need that DPS only need to get benefits. Healers and Tanks deserve it as well, whether that is DPS output or to their respective roles.
Destroyed the interest I had for the spec I’ve used for a long while.
You know this is 100% the intended design of the game, it would not be in the game if someone did not program it that way. RNG is RNG that is their go to design ability.
You’ve completely missed the point. Nobody should be getting a +50% boost to their DPS just because they got lucky on one item. The item could be a blue ilvl 400, with EV3, and would be a 50% increase to your mythic+ dps.
If you’re playing a tank to see big flashy numbers, you’re doing it wrong…
And just like I thought, you’ve been having a hard time pushing keys. Though I’m proud of you for getting that 19 barely in time with an average group ilvl of 470, all neck level 80s, two of your dps above 40 total corruption! Congrats, you pushed one of the easiest dungeons in the game during a very easy week! As for the rest of your recent keys, well let’s just say there’s room for improvement…
Then remove corruption entirely from the game dude.
These constant nerfs have completely defeated the purpose of corruption provided a large gain for a large deficit. There is literally no reason for you to invest having high corruption.
You basically want the system in itself to be dead before it ever started.
So…congrats…
Before you call someone out on their progress on Retail, maybe not hide behind a classic muppet account FYI
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Imagine not having a Valentine’s date and going out having a grand time… We also have a life outside of wow for valentines weekend. Some of us were making love, not Warcraft all the time.
And that key was a top 3 US in that dungeon for that affix for the week when I completed it. “bolstering/explosive” is easy for the community? Rofl. Where’s your io page to show your 20s and 21s completed in time this week? Oh wait, you’re a pretend mythic pluser. Get a life. You’ve been blocked and reported. Sorry you are all alone in your life. Your local support center can refer you to mental evaluation random internet guy.
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It’s not cyberstalking. It’s public information that you’ve given consent to by playing the game. You have agreed that your name can appear on the official leaderboards and therefore appear on raiderIO. If you don’t want people to be able to look you up, then you can opt out and hide your character from being looked up.
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Anyways, getting back to the topic, the nerf has been executed and there isn’t really a need for this thread anymore other than moaning and complaining about it. If a blue sees this, you can probably just lock the thread. Nothing good is going to come from it remaining open.
If I can hold aggro just fine on my gluttony VDH, that uses almost all defensive talents/azerite/trinkets(stacked haste/vers btw), when DPS are popping off in the 100K+ range for the first 10-15 seconds, I’m sure other tanks will be fine too. Plus, all they’d have to do is buff the threat gen modifier by 10-20% lol… It’s not hard, they’ve had to do it plenty of times in the past.
They shouldn’t have to, let alone that while gluttony VDH is certainly tank, it also has bad DPS, and such a thing is detrimental for running higher keys. Nerfing the HP based corruption traits only served to make the system self defeating.
Why would I invest in EV, if the benefits are completely outweighed by the steep corruption cost?
So the only thing worth using are the DPS corruption effects which tanks generally don’t benefit from nearly as much. SO you end up with a garbage system.
Furthermore, tanks who may hve used corruption to shore up their weakness such as DH, just ends up being left in the dust further.
Is Blizzard going to buff other tanks to Warrior prot levels?
Nope.
Or you know maybe they can tune their game without relying on dumb affixes to do it for them. BDK single target is in line with other tanks. A buff to blood boils fart damage would go a long way.
Ya well apparently they are doing next to 0 balance passes this patch.
My point is that even with the terrible DPS tanking build I’m using right now, it holds aggro just fine and is actually pretty hard to lose aggro on unless a DPS completely nukes a target that I somehow missed tabbing onto for a couple fractures.
I agree, but unfortunately, that isn’t the case.
One benefit of EV is that it scaled with HP. So a high HP tank could useit effectively. This wasn’t a bad thing. The problem now, however, is that the nerf was such that the corruption is no longer worth using.
Should blizzard rely on these affixes? No.
But there is little point in a system that is high risk, high reward, when there is no reward.
Correct.
Welp, have fun like I said.
The complaints about EV simply weren’t warranted given that such high DPS only occurred when you stacked the effects and ended up with high corruption.
High risk, high reward.
Now?
No point going for high risk when the reward is no longer there.
ALl the nerfs did was keep the top tanks top and kill the entire point of bothering to stack HP based corruptions like you would DPS ones.
Bottom tanks like VDH, Bears, and BDK are allowed to languish.
Those three tanks allow healers to dps more often because they need little healing usually. My VDH almost always outheals the healers for the run depending on affixes. So if the healers get to pump out 30-50% more dps for the run and I’m only doing half of what a prot warrior can do, then it kind of evens out somewhat. Not perfectly, but it’s less of a detriment than people play it up to be.
It doesn’t even out at all dude.
Let alone of those three, VDH is the best and only on a spec that deals poor damage as a whole. So it really doesn’t work out as you claim.
Tank DPS matters significantly more than Healer DPS< simply because the AOE potential of the tank is greater than the healer.
If my prot warrior/prot paladin is out hurling 50k AOE, but my BDK and VDH are half that, you’re not going to make that up through the healer DPSing more.
It simply doesn’t work out in such a fashion.
Mythic is all about the trash clearing. If your other tanks are squishier and deal less damage, it just makes things harder for the group as a whole. M+ is already very much reliant on how the tank plays.
Nerfing the corruption system didn’t make things better in anyway.
It turned the system from high risk high reward to, high risk no reward. That isn’t good balancing.
To bad most healers in pugs will stand there lifeless like they are afk instead of help dps. Also the majority of the damage a tank receives in M+ is physical. Prot warriors generally require way less attention from the healer.
I know it doesn’t completely even out. Let’s say for an end run chart you have three DPS averaging 60k, the tank doing 30k and the healer doing 10k, that’s 220k total. You could also have 60x3, 20 and 20 and still equal 220k. That’s the point I’m trying to make.
Right. A healer should pretty much always be GCD capped no matter what. If they aren’t casting a heal, they should be dealing damage.
Not true. A good portion of pulls in almost every single mythic have some kind of caster and they can absolutely melt warriors if they are allowed to freecast in higher keys. Other than that, yeah, they are pretty resistant to physical damage.
“bolstering/explosive” is easy for the community? Rofl. Where’s your io page to show your 20s and 21s completed in time this week? Oh wait, you’re a pretend mythic pluser. Get a life. You’ve been blocked and reported. Sorry you are all alone in your life. Your local support center can refer you to mental evaluation random internet guy.