Echoing void needs an AOE nerf on tanks

The only tank that can deal with magic damage directly is paladin through their talent.
Everyone else takes significant amounts of damage from magic. So it doesn’t even out.

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Yeah, but healing back is a thing. VDH, PP, bear and BDKs are made to just heal back afterwards. A lot of BDKs can easily pop off in the 100k HPS range on big pulls. VDHs can be in the 50-100k range no problem as well. Warriors don’t really get that unless they are using lucid dreams and that only lasts for 15 seconds.

That is because they don’t need it. The ability to mitigate damage is far superior to healing yourself. One gives the healer more time to heal you, the other is reactionary. This is why you see very few DK’s as the key level increases.
100kHPS means nothing if you get two shot. It also inhibits wht you can pull, and on necrotic weeks? Its flat garbage.

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Except prot warriors can’t really mitigate magic damage reliably. Most tanks aren’t going to get two shot though, but it can happen in really high keys. Even warriors can go splat with bad luck or when they have a minor lapse in cooldowns or focus.

Prot warriors probably need some nerfs, but it’s unlikely they will happen because the amount of work it would take to rebalance it all. As for the rest of the tanks, they are all pretty similar. Some fair a little better than others, but I’ve healed them all at decently high levels and can say they feel roughly the same.

The only tanks having problems now are the ones who manage to do 10k st in 460.

I see these a lot pugging and I have no idea how they manage to do 8.0 dps in 8.3.

I think any tank in 460 can do ST 10k from auto attacks =x.

I keep getting unicorns for Wrathion co-tanks then.

This is complete and absolute rubbish, sorry. You clearly just have no actual experience with higher end M+ in any capacity that would give you a credible opinion on this. Vengeance DH despite their self healing require MORE attention from healers than basically any other tank besides Bear Druids. They have a massive health pool and mitigate substantially less damage than Warriors. Your freakishly absurd 30-50% more healer DPS number is one of the craziest out-of-the-rear-end statistics I’ve read in ages. A healer does not do 30-50% more DPS because a Veng DH is tanking for them. Purely psychotic.

You go on to use horrible groups that don’t even know how to interrupt a single dangerous caster in a trash pack as evidence why Warriors have it so tough. Is this how you want the game balanced? Around fools who can’t interrupt a basic mechanic? So basically as long as you aren’t playing in a single-digit IQ group, and you interrupt dangerous casts, Warriors are 10x more tanky and manageable for a healer than a Veng DH. Thus, your ridiculous 30-50% more DPS number is completely invalidated by your own admission, so long as groups can interrupt, which anyone above 1k io with a functional brain can. You can’t introduce niche evidence that only applies to horrible players at the lowest bracket and possibly think it suggests Warriors are balanced with other tanks in m+. Have some common sense.

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