level 11 can speed run it, level 21 can speed run it, level 36.7 can speed run it, level 77.4 can speed run it… Blizz made TW absurdly easy, which results in absurd behaviors. Like dps not needing tanks or healers.
Than make a group of level 80s if you think TW matters. But let me ask – why are you running TW dungeons? If they had TW dungeons available with no loot attached would you bother running them? Also… I can destroy every single TW dungeon at level 80 in a minute as well, just they won’t give me credit for TW. People do it every day, while trying to farm mogs.
(You in this case is general, and not targeted at you personally)
Have you ever heard of this thing called Custom Groups?
That isn’t what is happening here… he wants to enforce some weird speed limit on trivial content and people are not having it.
Most 80s can solo TW with careful pulls its not a mythic 10
Every queued content since cata, yes
what’s your problem today, sorry?
I do NOT agree that anyone is of no consequence, but I agree with the rest of what you said. I liked that brief period when TW was a fun challenge and worth building special gear sets. I was an outlier and most players wanted it super easy. Anytime it’s tuned super easy, players will treat it like the joke it is. Just like Remix.
Nobody is forced to run with any group. Make your own group and run tw premades, stop using random.
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Yea, that was a bit extra, I’m editing my comment lol
Yes, that was peak TW. I had a guy with Unstable Arcanocrystal trink that had avoidance AND a socket in it xD
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Awesome. 
Trivial content, worthless content, boring content, forced content. Ever think of doing a petition to have a dungeon one boss right when you get in the dungeon, kill him get full experience you currently get with no time taken?
This is a direct result of M+. That garbage timer has created a huge mentality of rush, rush, rush. I get it that the scaling issue is absolutely contributing to the problem, but it’s a symptom, not the disease.
M+ has created a mindset of (1) Ignore Quests, (2)Over pull the dungeons (3) take the best AOE DPS specs, (4) Tax the healer, which results in (5) Fewer healers.
The problems are made even worse by the poor design choices of making tanks squisher and healers basically impotent compared to how they used to be.
People crying that the game is too easy brought down the nerf hammer on tanks and healers. M+ created a rush, rush, rush, mentality, and now dungeon runs are fun for … nobody.
Congrats, Blizzard. Your poor design choices have ruined Dungeons. /Slow clap.
The forums:
Leveling it too slow! Dungeons take too much time!
Also the forums:
Leveling is too fast! Dungeons runs shouldn’t be five minutes, slow them down!
(time to eat two cookies, one for each group)
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“Go as fast as possible” has existed since day 1 of this game.
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No it has not, that is such an over generalization that it made me lol irl
It literally has, people went “slow” due to level and gear differences and not knowing the dungeon and abilities of enemies and bosses.
Once those stipulations were taken care of people went as fast as possible
Aka people have always gone as fast as they’re comfortable with, we didn’t go slow just for the sake of going slow.
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Like I said, you made an over generalization.
While mythic might have created that problem, TW speedrunning isn’t related to that. TW is boring and doing the same dungeon slowly on multiple characters with the reward only coming at the end of 5 runs is the issue. If Blizzard made TW dungeons actually interesting that would different.
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Ya, I never complained about M+ at all, let them do their thing I could care less, I do not do endgame, mostly cause I do not like chasing all the carrots you have to chase at that level.
Never have i said i want to disrupt others, I did say I really want you in my group, just you , only you , I would bring cake, maybe even eat it too.
I love me some speed runs… Please tanks - keep up the good work!!! 
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