Dungeons ques are not speedruns. This has gotta stop

No Bro… my solution is to use the LFG feature and if I get a twink, hurrah if I don’t then I play the game. I don’t run to the forums to cry. I have 4 level 80s I need to do TW weeklies with. I might see 1 or 2 twinks on 20 runs. It isn’t some grand ordeal. You really need to get over your sense of self importance. It is obnoxious. I don’t even think you play the game at this point.

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are you actually implying that people can’t clear… .timewalking content…without a twink?

get a grip my dude.

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I’m aware it’s timewalking, but the point still stands. I don’t pay to access TW or any other content just to run along behind someone like an NPC on Follow.

Once again dude, pot meet kettle. You’re so far up the backside of your own grieves that I’m surprised you can breath at this point. I’m content to let the twinks do their thing BUT not at my expense or that of everyone else. The only self important people here are folks like yourself arguing about why everyone else should have to form their own groups or “suck it up” about not getting to play and being forced to watch someone else while only being able to press W. Person that needs to get over themselves are folks like you who think you’re the only thing that matters in game. Sorry but again it’s TEAM content not ME content. Fact you’re trying to make group content purely about one guy shows you’re the problem.

You have a right to play, but so do the other 4 people. When one guy prevents 4 other people from getting to play, we’ve got a problem. But thanks for proving you want to troll by dodging the question.

Clearly they can’t as much as they’re relying on them like a crutch.

No it doesn’t.

Then don’t do that.

That’s not a thing that can happen.

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“no you” isn’t a valid argument here.

See above, one guy doesn’t get to prevent 4 other people from playing. Sorry that’s not how that works at all. “Don’t do it” is not a solution in this instance.

So twinks coming into groups and one shotting everything to the point 4 other people don’t get to participate doesn’t happen eh? Good to know.

Once again I still stand by the statement they need to fix the scaling and/or separate the group pools then both sides win and this goes away. My mind is not going to change on that.

Then stop being a loser and learn to play. I don’t get when this lowest common denominator approach became acceptable but its time to stop.

Get good.

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And there’s the usual gaslight right on schedule when you know you have no arguments. Explain to us how exactly one is supposed to “git g00d” with people one shotting everything?

Lowest common denominator is a bunch of self-righteous people thinking they’re the Titans’ gift to wow and should be allowed to relegate 4 other people to being NPCs in their interactive movie.

Just vote kick the twink if its such a problem.

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No it’s pretty blatant and effective for removing unwanted elements.

Sooooo what you’ve been demanding this whole time more or less?

That’s not “both sides” that’s you winning.

There’s you and five other people throwing a tantrum on these forums about twinks in random NON-competitive content. And everyone else who likes them or doesn’t care either way. Making a twink only bracket for PVE content only makes you happy in its misery.

  1. Low level twinks carrying the group have been a thing for YEARS.

  2. the only issue is you being a fragile snowflake over this for some indecipherable reason.

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No one cares. You and the 5 other people ranting about this are below notice, but thanks for the popcorn antics.

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My man its the difficulty level where roughly half the dps specs at max level can solo it. I don’t go into lfr for challenging encounters.

You want the story mode to move at the pace a geriatric old man and no one is up for that.

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It only removes a potential problem after it’s occurred, it doesn’t prevent it. Just like slapping a bunch of bandages over a gunshot wound may stem the bleeding but doesn’t address the bullet wound.

Separating the two groups into different pools (best and easiest) or fixing the scaling (simplest) negates the issue outright.

Only thing I’ve “demanded” is my right to play and not be relegated to being an NPC in a game I’m paying for. You have a right to your fun but not at my expense.

Now you’re just being willfully ignorant and proving my point that you people just want to troll. The only tantrum throwers here are people like you because you got caught stealing the proverbial cookie jar and are now being mad the other kids are demanding their share of the cookies too.

If it’s non-competitive as you say, why are you so bent on keeping the status quo as is and trying to force everyone into runs that are over before one can blink purely because you consider it a chore where as I don’t? There’s already a separate bracket for them in pvp and if you want to fight them in pvp, group up with one and go in. Same concept for pve.

You people get your groups as fast as you want and I get to actually play my toon instead of being relegated to an NPC. You have your group, I have mine. You only claim it’s not beneficial to both sides because you enjoy trolling.

Once again, existence of something does NOT confer content. Otherwise by your logic they have to unban the guild that killed the Lich King using the saronite bombs. And all this means is they’ve had crap design for years.

Issue is entitled twits thinking their singular gameplay should be allowed to come at the expense of 4 other people. But you do you dude.

You obviously care more than you say or you wouldn’t be so hell bent on shouting me and others down.

Once again I do NOT care that it’s slanted more towards the lower end of the gear spectrum. All 5 people have a right to participate and not just be one guy’s +4 to get in the door.

There’s the typical gaslight again. Yeah that isn’t how that works. Simply because I want to actually get to play my toons does NOT mean I want it to go snail pace slow. You can have faster runs without everything being over in one hit. Heaven forbid you have to endure a run that’s 10 minutes at most instead of being done in 7. How will you ever live not being the center of attention in an interactive movie.

I mean screw me for wanting to actually play the game I’m paying for and not wanting to pay to watch you play while being on /follow. I mean how dare I not want to kiss the backside of your greaves and grovel.

Have you caught on how unhinged and detached from reality this makes you sound? No?

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It… is. It’s PVE. Your team against NPCs.

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Spending a minute for my amusement when i’m waiting in line isn’t that costly.

Zero things are stopping you from participating… your the one half afk struggling to catch up to the group not the other way around.

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What makes you think that complaining here will change anything, when most players will never see what you’re saying? I’m just being a realist: speedrunning content that’s easy to speed through has happened so consistently for so long, we can conclude it’s human nature.

Are you hoping to convince Blizz to tune the dungeons harder? That’s the only way players will slow down. Separating twinks won’t matter; you can speedrun them on level 80s too.

You can continue wishing for everyone to change, or adapt to the way things are. You can still dps, btw. You just need to watch tank and move when they do, savin dps for when they stop.

I really enjoy the idea that people need to go an attack other players as not being good enough to do time walking dungeons. It really does show their frame of mind. This is truly the pinnacle of gameplay they will achieve and the fact that a level 11 can speed run it has destroyed their brains.

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It’s like you’re standing in the newsroom yelling at the weather crew for not changing the weather, and we’re suggesting you buy a rain coat lol. You can complain to us all you want; it’s still gonna rain and we can’t change that any more than you can. :cloud_with_lightning_and_rain::rofl:

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People with very different goals are forced to queue up together, just like in panda remix where good players and bads all did the exact same content getting their gear from 1 to 32 upgrades.
It’s low effort design, throwing the user experience to the wind.
Saying people are “abusing exploits” is shameful though. Grow up.
Blizzard nurfed TW XP, TW Badges, TW Scaling. People with goals are adapting. You’re just getting lost in their dust.
It’s a blizzard design problem.

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