Are you a dev? No is the answer to that question actually.
So accept this :
Nah, but he is:
https://i.imgur.com/rv6iC1q.png
Cheers like the crowd
Ugh this is so dumb. Well guess that answers my question to never resub back for classic. A few morons complaining about something that doesnt even effect them can ruin things for the non morons.
A group finder in no way changes the vanilla experience as its still server and community based. So stupid.
Itâs dumb for you.
If you canât understand why people want to keep this social connection you may not have the âClassic spiritâ and not seeing more than whatâs convenient for you.
We donât want a game where we play with ârandom n°1494â that youâll never see again for many reason :
- People are easily replaceable with LFG meaning instead of helping a newcomer or bothering chatting with him a lot of people will prefer kick him & let the tools do the rest
- With LFG, players arenât interacting anymore, they donât need to
- Since you can easily find a new dungeon, this create a lot of â1 wipe -> leaveâ behavior
Iâm sure the others players here will find propers reasons too.
Yeah, and if someone is cheating like speed hack or 1 shot a raid boss or even buy golds : why is Blizzard bothering banning them ? At some point it doesnât effect me at all too.
This is why this type of answer is not viable in a MULTIPLAYER game. Because what the others do will affect us, directly or not.
LOL.
Never seem the priest that ran BFD with me again. Completely ruined my experience. I am legit quitting because of that right now.
Iâm not quitting because I dont win AVs, or the trash ranking system, the classes unbalances, gatekeeping in ZG, because I have to wait hours to form a dungeon group to get my pre bis. Nope. Iâm quitting because I canât find a guy that I ran dungeon 1 month ago.
You gotta be f-ing joking.
Helping newcomer?? Do you even play wow classic, son? Where the hel is that rainbow community at? Have you ever ran UBRS? pugged MC? Sponsored MC with pugs? People get yelled all the time. People leave the group all the time. People get kicked all the time. This is normal occurrence. And guess what? Itâs always the veteran. Itâs always the 15 yo experienced player who whine on forum about the âsocial aspect of the gameâ.
I played retail from 1 to 110, and Iâve never, in my entire playthrought, was voted to be kicked out because âI didnt know how to playâ. I entered groups where ppl chat. And I entered groups where ppl did not chat. Why the hel do you need the enter the freaking game and talk like a f-ing parrot? Canât you just chill out and have a quiet gameplay? Are you THAT bothered by it?
Oh, my bad. I forgot Group Finder disabled chat between players.
Hm. That never happens in classicâŚ
That is up too you, but this game was designed to played in groups with friends, and if you donât that is optional its not a solo players game really. That is what reatail is for if you want to solo your way to epics.
I agree 100% with this statement. Dungeon Finder makes the game better!
But Classic is not SUPPOSED to be changed âto make it betterâ. Blizzard already did that, YEARS ago. They changed a ton of things, and added dungeon finder.
Classic WoW is for players who âdonât want Blizzardâs changesâ. If you want those changes, play retail. Those are your only 2 choices. A custom game with âonly the changes I wantâ is not an option.
In my opinion, the game has lots of features for solo play.
But it also has things that require a group: dungeons, battlegrounds, raids, successful world pvp, etc.
Thereâs no use asking for a solo version of the group activities.
You simply canât see how it affects those who wonât use it. Low level thinking on your part.
Some people I remember struggled to find a group even when everyone was leveling. just saying
Actually, whatâs destroying classic is the original design, planned obsolescence and all. The game was never intended to accommodate new players or alts that leveled up sometime later. The result is that newcomers are less likely to reach end game before giving up and going to find another game, and existing players who leave are not replaced.
Because of this the lifespan of the game will be shorter.
You can always grind mobs, OP. But as a warrior, that wonât be fun.
I finished my AV grind (yay) and spent some actual time looking at Puggle. My comments above stand, but Iâll do a quick pros/cons based on my own experiencesâŚ
Pros:
- Does a reasonably good job of parsing LFG channel text. Most instances are found via appropriate keywords and you can even specify your own matchers to make it more robust if you wish.
- Extremely responsive! Listings are parsed and displayed immediately, whereas my version of ClassicLFG I had previously struggled.
- Perfect at cutting out chatter. Look at this screenshot:
https://imgur.com/a/0tUS1ki
This is exactly why I want a group finder⌠people feel the need to carry on conversations in LFG, or guild recruit, which makes it very hard for me to find groups.
Cons:
- Listings can only be rendered stale via time. Thereâs no way to tell if the group is still looking or not. You wouldnât get this in a chat channel anyway, but this is information that would be nice to have.
- The implementation struggles with certain identifiers. For example, at least on my server, a Dire Maul North run is often advertised as âdm northâ. The addon expects âdmeâ or âdm:eâ. Itâs matcher entry appears to be space separated values and not something like comma, or semi colon, separated values. So having a matcher for âdm northâ specifically isnât possible. Oddly, matches for just ânorthâ werenât showing up at allâŚ
So I think, given the restrictions Blizzard has put in place, this addon does an excellent job. While itâs user interface leaves a lot to be desired, especially when compared to ClassicLFG, Puggle actually seems to work properly for me while ClassicLFG doesnât. Thank you for your recommendation, I do intend to use this.
Unfortunately, this is not a sufficient alternative to the proper Looking For Group functionality myself, and many others, have come to rely on in WoW from exposure to later versions of the game. For my part, I will continue to advocate for the retail implementation to be ported to Classic, as I personally do not believe the impact it has on players is detrimental to the Classic experience.
However, because I do understand the #nochanges viewpoint, even if I donât agree, I think that perhaps a reasonable compromise would simply be for Blizzard to revert the restrictions they put in place at the start of Classic. Vanilla actually had comprehensive LFG addons that worked very similarly to the retail version of LFG. I know because I used them. This allows addon authors to provide a solution to those who want it, while those who donât are free to continue to pursue more traditional methods.
Put simply, if #nochanges was applied in this area, we wouldnât actually be having this conversation
Hi!
Please understand that a group finder in no way changes the social experience. It certainly doesnât do this in retail, it didnât in Vanilla when addons with this functionality were supported, and it wouldnât in Classic.
The core premise is that a group finder inhibits social interactions because players arenât forced to type to one another. This is untrue, it is entirely up to the players to engage in social interaction and how they form the group doesnât seem to make a difference.
In retail, I quite often strike up conversations in my groups and, if the group is good, Iâll add various members to my friends list for future runs. It is my choice to make this engagement and when I do, most people reciprocate. There are times, however, when I just want to chill and do the dungeon without actually talking. Usually in those runs people donât talk much either.
Having said that, this exact same scenario plays out in Classic, and has since the very beginning. Once you get a group invite, folks tend to just make their way to the dungeon, do it, and part ways.
So at the end of the day, how you form the group has absolutely no impact on social interaction. How you choose to interact with your group once it has been formed absolutely does have an impact!
For folks wanting further interaction beyond this, groups and communities are the next step in WoW social interaction. This is also true for both versions of the game.
Please consider this and review your own experiences in both retail and classic with regards to social interaction in the area of forming groups.
LOL Youâre delusional. Consider that truth.
Thereâs no downvote on this forum. Thatâs one of the problems with this forum. But dungeon finder actually wouldnât be bad for this game so long as it doesnât come with the cross realm or teleporting that itâs most known for. Originally; all it did was help form a group for you, and thatâs how it should have stayed.
you got it
Perhaps in theory or in your case.
I think iâm not the only one, but iâm a social lazy. If a game donât force me to socialize, unfortunatly i wonât.
In Classic i had more chat in dungeon that i had for years in retail. Because there is a lot of timeout : finding mates/travelling to the dungeon/buff/mana regen
I can understand that some players just donât want to bother at all and just push 1 button then rush the dungeon and thatâs why retail is here.
Just a guess, but Iâd bet you didnât put much effort into it. Posting LFG (dungeon) once or twice and then giving up after 5 minutes because it didnât happen instantly doesnât really count. Youâre most likely doing it wrong.
My point is, this is a you thing, not a version of the game thing. For me, it was actually a pretty comparable experience socially. You do still have to travel to the dungeon in retail, just like you do in Classic, though it is a lot faster with flying mounts.
People also seem to want to rush dungeons in classic just as much as they do in retail. Again, itâs not a version of the game thing, itâs just a player mentality thing. I do lament that the rush meta worked itâs way into classic so quickly. I had like, one super engaging deadmines run and then it was all chain pulls from there on out until I hit 60, and I played at launch.