Down vote me into oblivion, but its a joke to say not having this makes the game better. All that is happening now are you either have the gold to buy a run or you just dont run dungeons.
I cant find a group even as a tank at lvl 46 and I have tried multiple times and multiple days on a high pop server. The best Ive gotten is a run in RFD where most of it was gray until the end.
Huge improvement to add this in for everything under end game dungeons moving forward now that the bulk of leveling is done.
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Have had no issues finding groups to run dungeons with on my alts. May have the occasional person drop to go do the boost runs but have done more normal runs then boost/carry runs.
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Maybe its a server thing. Im on Komcrush and I have sat staring at /lfg /lookingforgroup channel for an hour multiple times while being in a dungeon zone on general without being able to form anything.
All I see in those channels are people buying runs or selling runs. Would have never guessed it would be so hard to find a run as a tank.
Ive tried as both heals and tank and nothing.
That being said I just actually got a run for ZF lol. But first time in a good while.
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/1 Tank LFM for X.
That LFM is extremely important. People are extremely lazy and donât want to be the one to start groups. They want someone else to do it for them. Be that someone else.
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I am not opposed to this.
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Dungeon finder wonât help you to find a group faster/easier.
If you are looking for a group for Ragefire Keep but NO ONE ELSE on your server want to do it at the same time, it wonât make things faster/easier at all.
In fact it may be worse, because youâll just tag for the dungeon and do nothing else.
If you use LFG chat, some players using others characters may notice it and log their alt to do it with you.
It wonât prevent people from buying monastery boost too for example.
So, no Dungeon Finder isnât a good choice and as no place in Classic. TBC will have a good LFG system, just wait or create your own groups.
You can put yourself in the dungeon finder and still use LFG channel.
It wouldnt be worse for sure.
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In the beginning I was against dungeon finder cuz I wanted to revive the experience. Now as a DPS in Faerlina is a hell to find group. I stay hours trying to find a simple Strat run, and when I find is for warriors make tons of gold with uneeded items - and sometimes needing even the needed items and asking for sorry xD - (I got ninjed so many times⌠This is frustrating).
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This is the horrible mindset that is destroying Classic
Gtfo and go back to retail and let us have the game the way it was
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The thing is people havent taken into account here is battlenet.
When we did vanilla there was no battlenet, so you would make a big friends list for a character and have a good network. Now, people hardly want to add each other because of battlenet, and the same network isnt being built.
I remember my friends list filling up quite fast as a tank or healer, but rarely do I add people now so Im always at square one.
Not to mention the player base is more mature in the game now and just know how to farm gold and buy runs for alts.
Its just not the same experience and making groups is much harder.
Itâs funny because during wraith, even if it was like 9 am on a week day you could find yourself a dungeon group for almost anything, might take 15 minutes, or half an hour, but it would pop eventually. This is because it pooled together everyone from that region who was trying to do it, not just everyone on the server. This is why Iâm forced to play on a full server in classic, because without cross realm dungeon finder I would never find any groups on a low or medium pop server. Not at this stage of the game.
Even now groups are harder to find, even on a full server. Itâs easier to pay one of the 50 mages 5g for dungeon carries all day because the exp you get from taking half an hour to even get to the dungeon in the first place after finally finding 5 people is trash, like youâre better off mob grinding due to the lost time in the logistics of it.
With dungeon finder, leveling via dungeons actually became viable. Right now itâs kind of something you do when bored for a change of pace or for maybe some better gear, while waiting for that next world buff to drop so you can go back to farming freakin boars all day like that south park episode.
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As a community, lets make a conscious effort to differentiate between dungeon finder and group finder, ok?
A dungeon finder automatically builds your group for you and then ports you to the dungeon. This probably wonât get a lot of traction and I think, when people react with harsh negativity on posts like this, they are imagining this kind of functionality.
A group finder is just the UI tool that lets you advertise your needs, and lets other people browse those needs. They can then apply to the group where you can accept, reject, or talk to them directly. Once the group is formed, everybody still has to make their way to the dungeon themselves. This is something that would have very little impact on the game, as it exists today, but would be a huge quality of life improvement for most people.
I think itâs important to understand the difference.
That is why every one of them lands on my ignore list and the ones that liberally spam it get reported. Cleans up the channel in a bigly way.
GO TO RETAIL
Yeah gotta keep that echo chamber going right.
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but if you add them to your ignore list then how would you know they spam to report them?
honestly I think it would be one of the areas that they will have to cut out of the âpristine experienceâ to keep classic going. I know it would face backlash now because people get their undies in a wad.
So really, just a group finder server based tool would be helpful for now. You have to be a little weird to be against that because it changes nothing in the game mechanics.
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I would suggest marking anyone who uses ââgo back to retailââ post as spam. I do this often on here. Donât respond to them, anyone who uses that term isnât suited for an adult conversation, itâs similar to having TDS in the real world.
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Obviously the ones I see spamming and report as such are not yet on my ignore list. If not yet ignored and spamming, they go directly to reported status.
Itâs not rocket surgery.
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Oh I ignore them because they are either a troll or a little weird. If you are so pristine vanilla religious that you think a group finder tool to make server groups for dungeons ruins the experience, thats just weird.
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How about discussing precisely what sorts of effects having dungeon finder may have on the behavior of individuals, and guilds?
In any case, are you looking for anything that isnât already provided by the Classic Looking for Group addon?
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/classic-looking-for-group