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rdf was the best thing to ever happen to wow

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Simple:

See? Not credible. If you want to believe unverifiable evidence and your feelings thats fine! but calling it empirical, and demanding it be acted on is silly.

Factually incorrect, this is a False Dilemma fallacy, neither side has evidence there was no such inference.

This is actually projection, youre the one whos desperately clinging to a false pretense that you feel creates a system where you are OWED an action, defended by scrutable “evidence” you can neither prove nor disprove. you are the conservative christian in this regard.

Its pretty clear you are emotionally attached to being owed a feature in a video game and cant see reason or logic.

If you were going to listen to reason you would have seen it much like Callie did right off the bat, so now that i’ve publicly dismantled your little tirade, im gonna go ahead and blacklist you, move on with my day. bye!

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We want wrath, in the state it was when it was originally out.

Post Wrath a large amount of people will agree blizzard did alot of very stupid things.

I want people to stop trying to change wrath to suit their specific tastes.

Wrath was one of the most popular expansions for a reason, all you literally have to do is leave it alone, but blizzard literally can’t seem to resist the urge to “Fix” what isn’t broken and mess things up.

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IF dks and blizzard boosts werent also part of the picture, yeah, but because player boosting is removed as well, alts are gonna be even more painful

But RDF was in WotLK. People assumed it would also be in classic WotLK. That doesn’t seem like a crazy assumption.

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Countless polls all showing basically the same results over and over and over again, showing that there’s generally more people that don’t care about RDF than people that are against RDF, and a majority of players that are for RDF.

The countless backlash on the forums, twitter, and other social media showing a very large unrest over these changes for the sake of blizzard being unable to stop themselves from ruining something that was perfectly fine.

All of this is vastly more evidence than anyone against RDF could remotely hope to scrap together.

But you dismiss it because it doesn’t conform to your narrative.

Once again, you’re the dishonest actor in this situation. :woman_shrugging:

You’ve got nothing, when presented proof that there is a clear obvious leaning towards people wanting RDF, you decide that’s not good enough for you, and you move goal posts.

Then when called out, you deflect and backpedal.

But hey good for you for being the contrarian, at least you have something going for you.

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Its def not a crazy assumption, i assumed it would be in for ICC. on the one hand this makes me happy because without RDF i will definitely play classic cata or classic mop. esp if this means different talents maybe etc? but if it did come in for ICC i wouldnt quit wotlk over it. if it was there on launch i might quit over it realistically.

If i wanted a queu lobby game, i would go play FFXIV its a much better fleshed out game, and almost a carbon copy of ICC patch wotlk with badges and a 80% ilvl floor reset each patch

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Although different opinion that mine it’s nice to have an opposition that isn’t an irrational take. IMO I see it as a problem like in retail. The 1-3% of people want the game tuned around mythic raiding when 97%ish don’t care/want that. Flame me for numbers but the mythic community isn’t majority by any means. That same with wrath RDF, the majority wants it while the minority doesn’t have to use it. Why can’t the people who don’t want to use it just have it in game and not use it? The though for classic wow was for the original experiences right? We are straying farther and farther away from the original goals of classic. They are adding new stuff to the 14 year old expac. IMO community hasn’t/won’t exist(ed) in a long time. It’s inky the same people going back to play so why would people change their entire attitudes now and be this tight knit community?

I’m thinking at some point RDF will be added but well after release of classic Wraith.

You can smell the bait a mile away.

I dont believe you can make that distinction.

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what outcome do you expect when:

player boosting is gone
blizzard level 70 boosting is in
level 55 dks are in
whos gonna be leveling in azeroth?
its scary. nobody is gonna want to level an alt, cause there’ll be no one to group with

I wrote a topic on this.

I invited conversation and tried my best to keep out derailers of either variety.

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Such a terrible argument. If we like 95% of classic and dislike 5%, we should go play retail where we like 5% of the game and dislike 95% of it?

The people that think the dungeon tool killed the sense of community have it all wrong. Having an ease to find a group and not having to worry about if you will get taken for a group with the constant spamming in LFG chat or the LFG tool (that is totally pointless) doesn’t kill the sense of community. All that happens now is that you spam the chat channel or sit there and wait for someone that fits your needs shows up in the LFG tool that is in classic. Looking for a healer or tank is such a miserable task when you could queue up, go about your business and boom queue pops.

If you are worried about not having to run your butt to the dungeon well why can’t we just take out the teleportation aspect of it? You queue up, it pops you have your group and you run to where you need to go or get summoned. Healer leaves, tank leaves and just re-queue. No need for a member of the group to go back to a main city or sit there and spam the LFG channel again.

i like 80% of dark souls but im not on the Fromsoft forums demanding that the 20% be changed because i took a straw poll.

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can you address my last post to you?

Though honestly i dont know why people equate Rdf as the bad guy it made more people level alts. The real big bad wow community killer is goood ol Lfr which made it so people didn’t need to socialize or find guilds to get end game gear at a lower i lvl

No, the people who say they want the rdf are just the loud minority.

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Ever thought using RDF could not let you stockpile badges? Maybe doing them with people from your own realm would give badges then you could RDF for heroic gear? 5header huh? Easy fix easy solutions. RDF could give frost badges for heirloom another reason for it. There are tons of solutions but people think that having heroic gear is going to make the game unfair. People were blowing through “buffed” naxx on beta with template chars in blues.