yea at level 30, with full blues if you’re not finishing level 20 dungeons in under half an hour something messed up. that shouldn’t have to be explained or said yo.
VC wasn’t hard in raid gear you didn’t have to have AQ40 gear before dungeons became ‘‘cakewalks’’ and by cakewalks i mean you didn’t have to worry about pulling extra mobs, but you were never going to pull entire dungeons like you can on retail.
Again, they are doing this on stream right now. They are level 30 in level 30 dungeons steam rolling the dungeons. You can deny this for only so long man.
we have different definitions of steam rolling,we’re never going to agree so we’re done.
I have taught you well Grudio. No point in arguing if people disagree, and I disagree with you, but that’s ok, We won’t ever see eye to eye.
The reason people signed the petition is for the experience, not for copy-paste values of nerfed content.
An argument, is a verbal fight somebody has to win or loose.
A discussion/debate is a conversation between opposing sides to reach an agreed upon consensus or middle ground.
A conversations is just talking among friends.
Was there a point to this?..no just food for thought.
Then you’re not getting what you wanted, file a complaint with BBB and vote with your wallet.
that were not made in patch 1.12?.. because dungeon balance was changed a few times I think.
We could literally post all the changes from 1.0.1 to 1.12, if people want to read through them.
That is true, but I’m still going to do what I can on here to try to convince them to change their minds. They should just use what Light’s Hope is doing as a guideline. That server gave some buffs to content, but it is not hard by any means. They showed how to properly tune vanilla content and Blizzard is completely ignoring that.
They’re not going to change their minds yo, they have their plans and they’re going to stick to them. you should just keep playing on lights hope.
No, not at all. As someone who signed that petition as well, I signed with the intent of wanting to see a Blizzard Accurate Vanilla server for the player base who wanted it. And the only reason that petition was even remotely taken seriously is because Mark Kern, former Vanilla WoW Lead, hand delivered it to Mike and was on the side of those who wanted Official, accurate, Vanilla WoW servers. Do you think that petition would have done ANYTHING if not for him, and I bet you that if you asked him he would tell you that it should be as close to the original as possible.
Go on, go ask the Vanilla WoW Lead.
See what he says.
Dude, Classic is for historical preservation first and foremost and it should be just that. What comes after Classic, that’s where you should be arguing. And again, you are basing the entirety of Classic on low/mid level content based on what Above Average players who have been funneled BiS, practically twink levels, of gear.
I am sorry, but in this situation you are absolutely wrong.
Yes. 1.0/1.1 (real Vanilla) style difficulty. Not this 1.12 breeze I see on streams.
No.
Games do not have to be “hard” to be fun. No numbers tuning.
Clearly blizzard needs to make seperate servers of each and every patch, and then seperate servers of those servers with tweaks and QOL features for those that want that And then! even more special servers for the folks who want to be alone and no bothered by erm ( the elephant in the room)
(that was sarcasm,for the record.)
Take personal responsibility and stop blaming the game. You are a better player than 15 years ago, you have better equipment than 15 years ago, you have a better internet connection that 15 years ago. Surprise, Real Vanilla is easier.
I take issue with that Sir/ma’am/other, I am just as much a scrub as i was 15 years ago ![:rofl:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/rofl.png?v=6" ":rofl:")
The game was designed around bad internet and that patch is after nerfs. Would it be ok to release a mythic raid when it has been nerfed by 30% out of nowhere? No, it wouldn’t, so why is it ok for the equivalent in Classic? The justification could be the raid was going to get the 30% nerf a few months later.
Im pressing YES to change how much damn trash they throw into dungeons now a days
Its pretty bad i prefer classic dungeons because they are not littered with mobs and are fun to run
YES, the difficulty needs to be increased. Right now dungeons feel like LFR. No fear of actually wiping, just there to get your free loot.