Dungeon deserter needs to be removed from the game

Yeah that was a pretty bad take on their end, wasn’t it?

The better one would be to accept that you can get in a group of any skill level, and accept the group you are given or accept the debuff for leaving the matchmade group. It’s very simple, you have those three options.

No that is one of the solutions

  1. You enter LFD, agreeing to stay until it’s over regardless of how it goes, you stay til the end regardless of how it goes
  2. You enter LFD, agreeing to stay until it’s over regardless of how it goes, you leave early incurring the punishment for breaking your agreement
  3. You only enter LFD with a group of friends or guildmates you trust
  4. You don’t enter LFD

Those are your four options

How does this prevent people from getting kicked “for no reason”

Just accept? No. I have a right to my opinion. My opinion is that players should not be punished for leaving bad groups. Think of all the times in history where people were just told to accept the choices laid out to them. That’s not how people work. If something is wrong, people aren’t going to accept it.

Nothing is wrong

You left the group, you get the punishment for leaving the group

As it should be

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You’re not the hero fighting against oppression, mate. You agreed to do an easy dungeon with a random group of players. It’s not that deep.

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I completely disagree nothing is wrong. Hence the thread in the first place. My take is that there shouldn’t be a punishment for leaving bad groups. How many wipes would you put up with because a tank keeps dying? What’s your number?

My first thought was “does this guy think he’s Oskar Schindler for leaving a dungeon” lol

Some big words incoming, hopeful that you can piece it together.

The rules are clear, you just don’t like them.

You wanted a convenient, blizz-formed group. The cost of that convenience is your commitment to finish the run. If you choose not to z you get a punishment. So simple a 13 year-old could get it!

What blizz really needs escalating bans for are all these spammy troll threads from probably the same 3-4 people.

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However many it takes for me to want the debuff more than I want to finish the dungeon

But regardless of how many it takes, I’m still leaving the group knowing I get the debuff for leaving the group because I left the group

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I was simply pointing out the fallacy of telling someone that they just have to accept something that they deem not fair. It’s not in human nature to do that unless they are completely devoid of hope, which means that something very wrong was being done to them. Yeah, it’s a video game, but the principle that people won’t just accept something they deem wrong is perfectly valid still. Also, how about you leave holocaust references out of this. It’s not necessary or productive.

So it doesn’t actually address the issue you initially brough up that started this conversation:

It’s time you stop talking to other people like they’re stupid, pot meet kettle and all that

Well, mine is pretty damn high considering I came from wiping on Onyxia, & BWL, and so forth, I mean have you ever seen a 2h tank? I did and it was hilarious. You are asking for a # when there are things called variables involved.

Asking for a number was rhetorical. I’m making the point that at some point in the dungeon, people should be allowed to leave after enough wipes.

So, something you’ll hopefully learn at some point in your life

Just because you think something doesn’t mean you’re right

You leave the group, you get the punishment that comes with leaving a group. Everyone else is operating under the same set of rules as you. That is objectively fair.

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Incorrect. The anti griefing measure is the VTK not the Dungeon Deserter punishment.

The hypocrisy of you saying “Just because you think something doesn’t meant you’re right” is hysterical.

Because that was never abused in the past. Why do you think the penalty exists now.

There is always a reason. You just may not know it, or want to accept it. But there is one.