Anti-grief/troll measure.
Leaving without consequence would motivate people to ruin runs or waste time of groups because they didn’t get what they wanted. Idk about you OP but I say it stays as I don’t wanna play with bratty cry baby children, if you’re going to whine about one item you didn’t get and waste people’s time having to wait for a replacement you can stay out of my groups for all i care. Even the speed runners aren’t that obnoxious
Okay, then Blizzard needs an appeal feature. If someone got kicked by a group without actually doing anything wrong, and Blizzard needs a clear set of rules on the matter, then they deserved a 24 hour ban from the game on the first offense. Second offense 3 days. 3rd a week. 4th a month. 5th lifetime ban on account. Have players acknowledge the rules of LFD or LFR before they can use the feature so they know. Or definitely remove Dungeon Deserter for kicks. Too many people get kicked without proper justification.
How often are you getting kicked from dungeons?
Well, the other 3 or 4 players not wanting to play with them is a valid reason to remove.
Not often. I gave an example. Happened a few hours ago. I did some thinking about solutions. Removing dungeon deserter is the one I came up with.
And Capslock. You are the first person in this thread to show you either didn’t or cannot read. Sadly you won’t be the last.
I dunno I think in the history of the 3 years I’ve played I’ve been kicked twice?
I’m not going to lose sleep over it cause that’s 2/hundreds.
Then it’s not a problem if it doesn’t happen often. Take the 30 minutes and find something else to do. Next time maybe you’ll just leave on your own, or not rock the boat and risk getting yourself kicked. I mean you were going to put that debuff on someone else, but suddenly you’re mad it’s on you? Make it make sense.
You did some thinking and what you came up with was the way it used to be before they had to change it because that way was causing more issues than this way is. Nice.
I was only going to put the debuff on someone else because I didn’t have the option to just leave without taking it myself. I would rather not kick anybody, I would rather just leave without penalty in a run like that. How many wipes do I have to put up with in a timewalking dungeon? What’s the number. 5? 10? 20? Home many? In a run like that players should be allowed to leave without penalty.
You don’t have to put up with any if you don’t want to, but why do you think you would not get the leaving penalty for leaving?
I didn’t say would not I said should not. Answer this question. Why do I get penalized for leaving a wipe fest. And why should I get penalized? Give me a logical answer to that question.
Yes this is what I was referring to
It’s a penalty for leaving the group, why do you think you shouldn’t get it? That’s silly. You ARE leaving the group.
Why do I have to get a penalty for not staying in a wipe fest? How is that on me when the tank can’t keep himself alive? Why is it my time that has to be wasted when I’m not causing the problem? Answer those logically.
You don’t get a penalty for staying, that’s the point, you are encouraged to stay
Who said anything was on you?
Because you agreed to join a random group until the end of the dungeon, if that dungeon is a waste of your time, you’re welcome to leave, but you get a penalty for leaving the group you signed up to help
The remove feature can be beneficial. Sometimes, you need to kick people for valid reasons, like someone who’s been disconnected for a long time and it’s clear they aren’t coming back.
The issue arises when it gets abused. Blizzard designed it around a majority rule, meaning people can kick you as long as there are enough votes, even if you did nothing wrong and they just felt like doing it.
That’s where I have an issue, and why I think there needs to be an adjustment or system change for the rare times that innocent people are punished in those scenarios.
Okay, prove this happens at all, even once. Let’s start with that.
I could call up two of my friends, join a group, and do it right now. What’s stopping me?
Yes, it needs to be revised a bit.
For example-Que up for LFR and get into a run where the last 2 bosses are dead AND you are already loot locked to them. Leave group bc let’s face it, you will get no loot. You now get the debuff…that shouldn’t apply if you are loot locked plus more importantly some kind of AI should even allow you to enter that instances raid.