I guess this is where opinions differ here. I think people should be able to focus on all aspects and some people think your character should only be good at one aspect.
Side Note: There is another thread where polls were taken in the WoW community on streamers twitters and mmo champion. Apprently 80/20 in favor of adding dual spec.
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That’s correct. Your opinion is that you shouldn’t have to pay gold to be able to excel at every aspect of the game. In 2006, Blizzard disagreed, and they’ve followed through on their opinion with their stance.
There’s also a lot of players who treat TBC like a more difficult Retail, but we try not to make too much fun of them.
Clearly that didnt last long given they added dual spec a couple years later to increase participation.
Yep. And you’ll also note that Wrath was the subscription pinnacle, but dual spec wasn’t available until late in Wrath. Blizzard’s historical decisions have not always been good ones, and TBC Classic’s entire point is to recapture a period where those changes hadn’t affected the game in the negative ways that they did.
I feel like you’re not getting the point of coming back to Classic versions.
Me, too!
Yeah. I think Dual Spec is actually an anti-feature, changes the game, and forces multiple gear sets/play styles on people who wouldn’t have had to play that way otherwise (or at least displaces them in that they need to find new groups).
It disproportionately helps some classes more than others. And, it doesn’t actually remove the need to respec regularly (esp. for many classes who would then have to maintain multiple specs for each type of content they wish to play, if the would wish to continue doing so at the level the currently are).
Actually, Cataclysm was.
At least according to whatever data I have available to me, which is this:
And we’re welcome to agree to disagree. But I merely leave you with the thought that your argument is equally applicable against any of the examples I raised before. I think it would be a mistake to allow somebody to “dual-gear” a quest reward so the player can choose between the healing item and spell damage item as needed, or “dual-faction” their faction in case they change professions and suddenly need a new recipe from a different faction, but it is pursuant to the same objectives as dual spec.
That poll has large sampling but very poor demographic representation. The only people who would take such a poll are people who follow streamers and people who are passionate about dual-spec, so it naturally skews in favour.
Cata initially maintained the levels that Wrath set up. Your graph highlights that it did not maintain them. The peak at the start of Cataclysm was simply players returning for the expac release.
Neither did any other expansion, but the absolute peak was during Cataclysm.
Getting back to the topic, I also would reiterate the point from earlier.
50G is far less of an issue in TBC than it was in Classic. An evening of farming with AH sales could supply the 600G to required to respec twice every day for the rest of the week. That’s the choice people have to make. It’s just plain harder to be everything in everything in TBC than Retail.
lol just shut it and enjoy the game.
Or dont.
Dual spec is huge for a lot of players. Hybrids with healing/tanking specs and dps specs. PvP spec vs pve spec. Farming spec vs raiding spec. The list goes on. It’s a convenience that doesn’t really do anything imo to make the game any worse - it’s not like LFG which is a lot more arguable. Dual spec doesn’t affect the community. Not having it is just to make the game not more difficult, but just more inconvenient. More grindy.
I think it would be a good change (#somechanges), but I’m not sure it would happen. We’ll probably just have to wait until wotlk (the widely agreed upon best xpac) to drop on classic for it.
A compromise only makes sense when both sides accept that they got part of what they wanted.
Here, no one sees any reason to accept getting anything but everything they want. If they did what you propose Novocaine (for one example) would go right on demanding dual-spec, isn’t that right, Novocaine?
Have ya even played a little tbc yet? 50 gold is nothing.
Seal of Vengeance.
I suspect you are being sarcastic. This is unfortunate.
Seal of Blood stacks entirely with attack power and completely ignores spell damage and healing. This makes it entirely useless to Holy and Protection paladins. The frothing about it being SO MUCH BETTER is 98% about PvP and 100% based on “there are no specs that aren’t Retribution!” Meanwhile, Seal of Vengeance is the best tanking seal in the game.
It’s because nobody seemed to care that this was the better seal for the better role that paladins have in TBC, but everybody was complaining about SoB.
Now, Horde has the better seal also.
And that was my point.
Wait… the respec cost is only 50g and people are crying? I’m only lvl 63 on my warlock and I’ve made 275g already
Oh, and flying is 5000g + the ~2000g to get there…
Oh, good, not sarcastic.
Yeah, my blood elf Protection paladin benefits far more from that change than the Alliance paladin hordes (small-h). Yet I still wish they hadn’t done it, because authenticity matters.