That’s a very subjective opinion.
Players aren’t forced to do this, players choose to do it due to the min-max culture. Players are very welcome to spec however they please: try to go hybrid accross two talent trees; go deep PvE spec and perform suboptimally in PvP; etc.
Characters are defined by their limitations. Gaining the ability to do one thing should restrict your ability to do others. That’s not bad game design - that creates player identity and makes your decisions meaningful.
If you need the most optimal build to have fun, thats kinda your problem.
You need the most optimal build in order not to get one shot and have a chance at winning a dual in a BG or Arena.
And if you think otherwise you simply don’t pvp.
While I would love to have Dual Spec from a convenience point of view, the ‘availability’ of gold in the new version is far higher which means that people are far more likely to be able to afford the 50G cost more often.
The amount of gold out there given the large servers (and injections from bots) means a bit of farming work on the AH will net you far more than you really need to worry about.
True.
But the player who 1-shots you would then perform suboptimally in raids.
Why should players be good at everything? Why can’t I respec which factions I am exalted with? Why can’t I respec to a different class altogether? Why can’t I respec my gear as the situation demands? Why should any of my decisions have any weight or significance?
You can, just get good.
Apples to oranges, I am still honestly waiting for a decent reason why dual spec is bad for the game.
You currently can’t tell the difference if the player had dual spec, has a bunch of gold to respec all the time, or only raids when you invite them to your group. It affects you 0%
If you honestly believe a raid spec is viable in Arena, then I am not the one who has to get good.
LK was also the ‘little death’ of community, when cross-realm dungeons made players faceless bots to others.
Dual-spec has it’s uses, definitely, but part of the reason we all love Classic and TBC is because it lacks all the ‘convenience innovations’ that made the game turn into more of a single player, no-consequences, everyone’s replaceable, game.
If you want to do well in both raiding, and PVP… you’re also going to have to do well in farming, because it’ll cost 50G each switch.
The cost of switching spec gives incentive to continue farming gold. Talent reset fee serves a purpose that directly ties in with the roleplay elements of this game. 50g was seen as just enough to deter constant switching, while still allowing players the option to switch if needed.
Players need to understand that this is not retail. You’re not supposed to be able to min/max for everything. If your identity is PvP, you should focus primarily on that.
I’m sure people said the same thing about LFD. And the talent revamp. And Artifact Power. And so on.
TBC is what TBC is. You’ll get your Dual Spec in 2 years.
You aren’t playing TBC right now.
And you want Wrath already.
What’s the purpose of there being a deterrent to respeccing daily (or even more often)?
Otherwise, I more or less agree with this new and novel idea you have.
It’s not apples to oranges. Everything about WoW is designed around sacrifices:
But dual spec / constant respeccing? Suddenly you get to have your cake and eat it, too. It’s entirely inconsistent with the design philosophy.
The gold sink for re-speccing was designed as a similar barrier, but we’ve made that hurdle obsolete over the years. If anything we should be making the barrier meaningful again, not throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Your idea of better, and my idea of better is subjective.
It’s specifically designed to encourage people to focus on one aspect, instead of trying to dominate everything. Those who have the time and energy, also have the gold, so for them it’s not an issue.
It’s just the people who want everything for nothing, who can’t cope with it.
Is it? I’d actually love any reference to some design decision materials that you could show.
I’ve been thinking about this quite a lot, and if it is indeed meant to be a deterrent to respecc’ing, then it does its job, and is fine. Your explanations leaves a little to be desired, imo, but at least I understand the gist of what you’re saying, and it seem plausible.
The idea that it would serve as a gold sink doesn’t really, so I like your take much better. Thanks for sharing it!
No dual spec but boosts are ok, and layers, and chronoboon, and store mounts, and changing instance cap, and giving pallies both seals .
#no changes right guyz wait till wrath my brothas
No. Especially the both seals part! Why should belves have access to that (what’s the seal that alliance pallies had before?)
http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/32183833.htm
From Nethaera in 2006:
We would like to continue to support the idea that respecs should be very carefully thought out strategic decisions.