It actually does effect me, when you guild is doing heroics for one of our less geared tanks I respec SV to make it easy for them to do the heroics and get the gear because I’m now CCing 3 targets instead of 1. Nice try though. (My guild wanted me BM for raids, I want to be SV lol.
And yet, here you are. Saying that you don’t want dual spec.
Because it’s convenient aspects don’t outway the damage it will do. Classes and content are not designed like they were in wrath and onward. Tbc still keeps many rpg aspects of class weaknesses and strengths. Example in wrath basically every class has a baseline interrupt. In tbc it’s talent locked to where a BM and SV hunter won’t have an actual interrupt, yet MM does. Bm has horrible sustained aoe for 4+ targets, but SV and MM have talents that make the aoe from traps and volley better (still not great but that’s a weakness if the class) yet in wrath volley does a lot more damage and has no CD, it’s still not great, but it’s much more in line with other classes. And now speaking about aoe, content is much more ignore mechanics and aoe it all down for heroics in wrath, compared to tbc, where if you try to aoe it all down without CC your likely dead.
Wrath was designed in a way dual spec worked well, tbc is not designed that way.
Nor does dual spec fix the tank shortage for pugs.
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I’m pro dual spec, but It will not solve the tank shortage.
All those holy paladins, resto druids, boomkins, and sometimes dps warriors, aren’t going to magically turn around and want to tank because they toss dual spec into the game. It’s much more likely dual spec will largely be used to faciliate PVE spec and a PVP spec.
Let’s examine why the tank shortage exists.
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Heroic gear sucks. The rewards for it are minimal. People have no reason to run 10000 of dungeons. They get there stuff then they are done. There isn’t people falling in to replace them as tanks gradually opt out from getting their gear.
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Tanking isn’t fun and requires a degree of understanding in the game most players aren’t prepared for. 95% of tanks you do run into are simply not good. They don’t know how to communicate, or design strategies that are most optimal for the group they have.
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You only need 2 tanks for raids and occasionally a third. Why would players work towards building a tank when it greatly diminishes their chance of getting into future raid content?
The tank shortage isnt’ going any where. They could increase tank requirement to raids to 4 or even 5 and we’d still have a tank shortage for dungeons. Because the dungeons lack incentive for tanks to tank them.
The dual spec isn’t JUST about tank shortage. This is to change and be flexible in certain raid situations. @astandrelyne is right about that tank gears are just awful, and it’s not fun to play as warrior tank and druid tank, and yet pally tank too because their mana conservation is crap. All of these tanks were fixed during WOTLK due to the pre-patch, and yeah that’s not gonna be implemented for a long time unless Blizzard somehow miraculously say “Hey guys, we are adding WOTLK talent tree into TBC phase 2”, which is not gonna happen VS dual spec.
Dual spec is just for convenience, but it was never retail’s biggest flash point.
And I don’t want the convenience of dual spec because of the costs it bring to the meta, economy, gameplay, and player behavior.
People won’t farm gold for respecs nearly as much if dual spec is in game, which means less people in the world, doing dailies, farming, exc, less people instance farming and producing AH material, exc. Which results in less world drops, and a more stagnant economy.
Players have reasons to go into the world, even if they are inconvenient is part of tbc.
Rofl.
Less people farming instances with Dual Spec? Keep it up, you’re going to single handily assure we get Dual Spec implemented before WoTLK Classic.
And it won’t fix the tank shortage, we’ll be proven right once again and the idiots will try to convince themselves that they made valid points because their wait times went from 45 mins to 40.
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People feeling like they should just raid log more because they don’t need to farm isn’t a good thing.
The logic is that everything in retail is not bad. When ppl discuss adding something from retail that was a good addition it does not nake the game retail. That is rediculous.
The real question is though how many actually would or how much would it change. if 2% of the population decide to start tanking or joining bgs is it really a merited qol change or is it merely changing people spending respec costs that are now. Seems the latter to me which was what happened in retail.
I 100% agree with needing dual spec. There’s a tank shortage because most guilds can’t viably keep more than 4 tanks on their roster for one group of 25 man raids. I am resto and like to heal, but I would obviously go bear for dungeons if it didn’t cost an arm and a leg to re-spec every other day.
I know it was a WOTLK feature, but it is desperately needed. I don’t have hours on end every day to wait for a tank to run the daily heroic.
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3 tanks for raid, 6-7 healers, so roughly 10 total support, 15 dps, thats enough tanks and heals for them in 5mans, problem is there are WAY to many dps in the game. Nothing stops them from becoming a tank that can and running their own guild or whatever. Its a numbers game and in general dps are the variable and the support classes are the constant. Its a game of choices, so make the choice and fix the problem or live with your choice. That’s how the world works and the game design. Be the solution not the problem.
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Tanks are there, they just don’t pug, especially when they don’t need anything, my pally can take the 50g people offer as a tip and clear the instance, maybe having a good or terrible group OR I could go to strat live and make over 130g/h to a vendor(if I don’t sell any slots for boosts) and always have an easy time. I tank for guildies, I don’t tank pugs, not anymore.
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I know i would level my warrior if i Had dual specc, I wanted to tank in her and do something besides heal, but grinding as prot suuucks.
So It’d increase the number of tanks by at least one. 
Same as lvling as holy pally.
When someone posts something like this I wonder if they’ve every played the game as dps or do dungeons. I’d be happy if my dps alts went from not being able to find a dungeon group at all to only having to wait an hour.
That’s exactly what I do because there is no dual spec. When I have to have a pure healing spec for raiding farming isn’t fun so I just log off and play another game or do something else. Lots of tanks and healers raid log because it’s not fun to do much else in the game in a raid spec.
meanwhile, the ones who know how to make gold respec as much as they want and don’t beg for massive changes on the forums
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Each person decides what’s fun for them and plays the game that way. The difference between you and me is I don’t care how you play but you want to force everyone to play your way. With dual spec no one has to have two specs if they don’t want it.