I don’t care. I’m not rushing to 70. I’m happy leveling slowly, playing alts, and leveling professions. I’ve decided I need to level up enchanting to disenchant items so I’ll be spending some time on my 42 mage. There’s a lot of us enjoying leveling and not rushing to get it over with. My guild isn’t planning on starting Kara runs until Aug 7. I don’t care how other people play. Rush to end game if you want. But this is just like you. You can’t just play how you want. If anyone doesn’t play like you they’re wrong.
70 after 1 month is rushing?
I was 70 by week 2 and I didn’t rush at all, leveled e gineering and mining
you must be so proud. I spent pre-patch leveling up herbalism and alchemy on my boosted druid and then doing scholo to get to 60 and get some gear for outlands.
What are you basing this off of?
Retail WoW has tri spec and yet there’s still a tank shortage. So how much would dual spec really help?
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That may help you with your tanking needs, but it does not fundamentally address the issue of getting more people to tank for pugs.
It’s not a solution if everyone does that because there simply aren’t enough pug tanks around.
Lots of people I’ve pugged with message me.
And unless there’s something I happen to be after myself, I never say yes.
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It better not be released with Wrath.
It was a feature in wrath, there’s no reason to leave it out.
Gotta make a tank your self. That is the real answer here.
See, I have a tank. The issue, however, is that I have alts and I can’t tank for my alts.
Didn’t think of that, did you?
I don’t see why it wouldn’t be in Wrath. That’s just as far fetched as people that were wanting Flying removed from TBC Classic.
Personally, I don’t see a major feature such as this being implemented in TBC (if at all) until after all Phases have ended (when no one cares either way anymore), like they did with Spell Batching in Vanilla Classic.
Adding something like Dual spec simultaneously both goes for and against their vision that they recently posted. They mentioned that they want to use modern technology and design to solve old world problems, but at the same time only want to make “Surgical Changes” to the game. I wouldn’t call adding a whole new game mechanic “minor surgery” but then again neither would same faction BGs.
It’s a toss up really unless they ever plan to actually say “yes we’re discussing this” or no we won’t do that. Until then the forums will just be at war with each other about the subject.
Regardless, the same 2-3 responses of “Go back to retail” or “Wait for Wrath” brings nothing to the table.
I would say wait for wrath is a perfectly reasonable response. It conveys the idea of letting tbcc be about tbc as much as possible and we can all enjoy dual spec when wrath classic is out. But again, let tbcc be tbc.
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Honestly my dude, if TBCC doesn’t experience some changes the population is going to just trickle out.
PvPers are dropping quickly due to the crazy honor grind (let alone the faction balance/queue shanagians)
PvErs are getting tired of T4 only content (remember the game launched with hyjal available)
i just don’t see TBCC being very popular in six months without some changes to better suit the underlying vision of promoting friends playing together more
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The vision of friends playing together is already there.
You can do quests (most dailies not in yet but will be), pvp, dungeons, even farm gold together
If people are feeling burn out they may be taking the game to seriously instead of enjoying the journey. If you think we need phase 2 sooner than later you can request that, but I don’t want things not from tbc in tbcc. I already have to put up with some of the changes that blizzard did for the sake of $$$. I don’t want more changes that are being added just because people don’t want to spend gold on respecs when they want to play other aspects of the game. And if they can’t afford to respec they are doing something very wrong gold wise because I made 200g today without even trying to make gold. I helped some friends with their Kara attunement, did some ore farming to make myself and a tank friend more bombs (farmed about 125 bombs made) and did my guilds raid night of gruuls lare and magtheradon. The 200g I made was from vendor trash, raw gold looted and the fishing and cooking daily. And doing the fishing and cooking daily was the only part that was actively farming gold through quests.
If I can gain gold without even trying to, I’m sure someone can farm 100g+ to afford 2 respecs a day. Heck some class farms show a 400+g an hour income.
And I’m on a relatively small pvp realm of smolderweb.
It didn’t fix the tank shortage back when it was introduced, so why would it fix it now.
It’s not gonna solve much… dps that will try to tank will get abused for lack of knowledge and they will be pushed into not tanking anymore.
On retail you have the easiest tank methods for the basic content and people still isnt very happy to tank for randoms in general.
But whatever get more stuff from retail at this point… doubt it matters.
The opposite could happen as well. Pressure may obliterate, but it also makes diamonds.
“I hope to wake up and the world will be better everyday…”
I think the one picture you are missing here is that the lack of tank stems from a good number of factor’s not just people not wanting to change specs.
A lot of the tanks who have been running are already geared enough to no longer want to deal with pugs, or are just running with there guild.
For example why run a heroic with Randoms’ that will take 40 minutes to a hour when you can run with the guild or people you know and do it in 20.
Let alone being the only plate wearer in a lot for the runs gets you not just the tank gear you are after but you’re off spec gear as well. tanking is profitable a lot are doing runs for 50-120g and reserves on nether.
The list goes on and on for the reasons as to the lack of visible tanks, as a lot of people have mention i can tell you now the tanks in my guild switch off from there tank specs to pvp and they have to pay the 100g every time they do so and we raid Tuesday and Thursday that’s 400g every week more if they decide to tank for guildmates and what not.
We are on our 5th week of raiding I can tell you now our MT sells the crafted spellcaster dagger with the nether he gets reserved and he sells 4-5 a week for 1200-1400g to afford his respecs let alone we feed him his consumes so he never has to worry about them thus is the life of being a MT/OT in a raiding guild,
There are so many factors for the lack of tanks on a server honestly the best way to solve it for you’re self is find figure out when the prime time of you’re server kicks off and get you’re runs in around that time if possible or just run with you’re guild,
A person who is more noticeable is picked more often for invites as long as its a good experience in there books.
And just to put it out there outside of 280 flying and some mounts respecs is the only real gold sink we have on servers at this point so to have dual spec would allow for even more gold hoarding without a mean to spend it on so you also have to count that in as a factor as well and this is a subject i don’t want to touch on.
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It is a minor help. I dont think its as substantial of an improvement as you claim it is. Who knows for sure
One thing that could be done and appease those against dual spec would be to have each person declare a role for dungeons. Kind of like how you select heroic ir normal and it is set until you change it.
So i select my role as tank. Then when i get into a group as soon as i enter a dungeon i am given a tank spec. As soon as i leave i go back to whatever spec i was. This doesnt solve all of the concerns of dual spec but it solves some. Like with dual spec i am switching tank specs in raids. One spec for more damage mitigation.
For the record. I would rather have dual spec. It was one of the best additions added during wows life cycle and was recieved very well by the overwhelming majority. Some changes might not be a good thing. But dual spec is one of those chqnges like a bug fix. It wasnt there originally, but it is for sure a change most ppl would not mind.
I have leveled 2 tanks to 70, farmed all the gear, rep and badges I need and I’m done on both. Why would I dual spec and start tanking again? One of them is permanently prot too, and I don’t tank except for my guild in raids.
How would this motivate me to tank more? Dual spec would create really bad tanks who don’t have any tank gear, who have never tanked a heroic and a bunch of quickly disappointed and disbanded groups.
It would not solve the tank shortage.