Dual spec PLEASE

But all end game content is group content. Even end game quests are all group quests.

The game was built with the design in mind that relies on grouping and playing with other people.
All you can do solo is level. Nothing else. Just 2 cents

Cataclysm was, subscriptions-wise… at least according to this only data point I have to reference:

Having the ability and having fun doing it aren’t the same thing. I like to heal but I won’t do it on my druid. It’s just the worst imo, too painful and totally unfun to quest or farm with a resto spec. It’s not great to quest or farm with my holy priest so while I’ll do it I’ll avoid it as much as possible. I don’t think I should have to choose which part of the game I’m gonna play just to heal, or as others posted, to tank. I have level capped dps alts too and they can have fun playing the whole game with their one spec

So, what do you think? Does TBC Classic sound like the right game?

I’ve actually put on healing gear on my pally, with a tanking spec, and done respectable healing in some situations…

As if things are right or wrong, black or white. That’s not how I see most things. It’s a complex world and there’s a lot of grey everywhere. I don’t have any problem or issue arguing for what I think will make the game better. I spent a lot of time arguing on the multiboxer threads. I never thought it would make a difference or that anything would change. Still when people told me it’s been in the game since vanilla and it’s never going to change it didn’t stop me. And then blizzard decided to ban input broadcasting software and hardware which was exactly the change most of us on the threads wanted. So I’ll keep making my case for the addition of dual spec as soon as possible

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Totally fair points. And I apologize if any of the points I made seemed like they were coming from a place where I wasn’t just representing my opinion, or if it seemed like I was suggestion you shouldn’t represent yours!

I suppose with this particular topic, while I’m not really against changes that could benefit players having the ability to play across various content more easily, I really don’t like dual spec in particular, and don’t think it actually solve that problem well enough for a lot of classes, while it can change gameplay for some.

It’s a lop-sided change that requires a relatively large large chunk of development work, benefits some classes much more than others, doesn’t solve the underlying problem that it aims to, because you’ll still need to respec for various content, etc.

Of course, it depends a lot on whether respecs should be painful. (which personally, I don’t think they should).

Trying to do quests as a Prot Warrior sucks. Why do you hate fun?

No, it’s supposed to be a game that is enjoyable and fun.

If it sucks so much, then don’t do them as a prot warrior.

The game is more fun because of the lack of dual spec. That’s what makes it feel like an actual RPG… because you have to make tough choices that you can’t easily change on a whim. It’s one of the many charms of TBC that a lot of us are attracted to.

“fun” dual spec will come in WoTLK. For now, can we just let TBC be TBC?

Duel spec no, stop asking with new threads, use an existing thread, there’s already dozens of these threads, this thread is spam.

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Stop using prot gear to quest then. Change your gear has a big effect, you don’t have to change specs.

As a tank you can spam dungeons until you have a full dps set and tank set, then change to dps gear as you quest.

Or quest in a group with a strong aoe class, use your tanking to pull everything together and then let the aoe class unload.

You have options, stop acting like duel spec is your only hope.

Dual.

D u a l. Dual spec.

Not being a software tech I don’t know that it would take a large chunk of work especially since it already exists in Wrath and might be relatively easy to import it to BC. But I agree with your linked post. Dual spec is the zeitgeist of the moment so I support that. If lower respec fees was getting the most support I’d happily support that for all the reasons you mentioned. While I like the ease of dual spec in that it remembers your talent choices and bottom bars lower respec fees, if they were low enough, is better in that it does give you more freedom to choose.

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Relatively easy in what context? It would have to be specified, designed, implemented, tested, and iterated. It’s a fair amount of work.

This thread, which talks about something much simpler, an addon, might give a little insight into why something that exists in a later version might still be a lot of work to backport into an older version:

And there have been (and probably are) addons that can keep track of talent builds, keybinds, gearsets, and whatever else you might want to do, but they won’t change respec fees for you! :wink:

Build a good spell damage dps set, get it gemmed and enchanted and everything, and soloing stuff is not that bad. Maybe 1/3 slower. A resto shaman can still cast Lightning Bolt, believe it or not.

Tbc was the peak. Fite me.

Auto correct hits for over 9000!..

That’s the point I’m making. Dual spec means I can come out of a dungeon and go back to questing without having to make a pit stop and rebuild my UI.

Then don’t buy dual spec. It’s more fun for me, and many others, if it is in. Why can’t we both have fun?

Lol. Delusional drivel. There are no “tough choices” when it comes to specs. I pick the build I want for the activity I’m doing. And I change it at a whim. And I can change it often. Dual spec just saves me, and any potential group that needs a tank, some time.

If you want to roleplay some sort of character that has to stick to whatever spec build they have and rough it out from there, more power to ya, but don’t pretend that is how the game is played.

You do realize this isn’t TBC right? This is TBCC. With boosts, and early access to Draenei and Blood Elves. And Paladins with with access to both racial Seals. And final patch class balancing. And server layering. Ect. Ect.

Just because 15 years of knowledge has invalidated a gameplay mechanic doesn’t make it “delusional drivel”. Blizzard did not intend players to change specs as frequently as they do. There are blue posts from 2007 which support this.

Everybody in Classic knew how to farm world buff meta. So they should just nerf all the raids by the equivalent of the DPS increase of world buffs.

It’s not just 15 years of knowledge. Its actual in game options that date back to original Vanilla. Committing to a spec is not now, nor has it ever been, a thing. You can always change it.

Trying to argue that placing your talent points is some sort of sacred thing that needs to be respected and thought out is delusional. You can play like that as a personal choice. And I support those who do. Buy it’s not how the game works. So making that argument just shows you have no idea what you’re taking about.

Hahaha, lol no.