Again that’s an assertion not an argument. No matter how many times you say it it won’t become an argument.
assertion
Something declared or stated positively, with no support or attempt at proof.
I’ve told you previously that I don’t give an eff for your heuristic. I don’t even remember it doesn’t mean anything to me. I just look at each change individually and decide what I think about it in personal terms and in how it will affect the game for others.
I’ve made arguments as to why. How many more million times would you like me to repeat them so you can ignore them?
I mean we get it, your reason is that it just wasn’t there in TBC originally.
That isn’t a reason it would be bad or good in TBC Classic merely a statement.
That’s a lie
You do this everytime to make sure compromise positions are squashed out of the argument.
So why would it be bad in TBC Classic? Or even better why would it have been bad in TBC originally? What problem does it cause that is specific to TBC?
How about as many times as we’ve made our arguments that you’ve ignored?
I keep falling for it but there’s no point.
The thread is pointless. There have been solid arguments made over the months on both sides and there are no new arguments to add. Nothing. Not from the for case or the against. Use the search. There’s not been a new argument in over three months.
Actually it’s not, as long as it keeps the topic being discussed it serves a purpose.
I haven’t ignored them I accept you’ve made arguments and I disagree with them.
You don’t accept I’ve even made arguments or you falsely claim that my argument is no changes. That is my dispute here. It’s fundamentally disinguious.
I don’t need or want your arguments repeated. I heard them the first time around they haven’t changed and I still disagree
Nor do I want to repeat mine ad infinitum simply to jump through show hoops for you.
I’ve already laid out all my arguments months ago, I don’t need to repeat them.
But I will call you put if you misrepresent or lie about my position.
Then why are you? I remember you prattling on about heuristics in some previous thread. I remember telling I don’t care about it. I remember saying then that I look at each change individually and form my opinions when the subject comes up and that I don’t have some over riding heuristic to account for any idea, suggestion, or change that comes up. Now you bring it up again. Either you forgot it was already discussed or you want us to repeat what we said last time you brought up that nonsense.
Here’s one of the responses I gave the last time you brought this up.
I’m not, I am responding to blatent mischaracterisations of my position. But I am not restating my case.
You say my whole position is no changes that’s a bold faced lie.
You say I’ve never put forward reasons, another bold faced lie.
I’ve given reasons - you’ve sometimes quoted them. I have a number of changes I support including to the talent system. You know all this so you know your repeated claims to the contrary are plainly false. Yet you keep repeating them as fact.
The fact that you keep repeating your old arguments, that’s your issue. Noone is asking you to. But I’ll keep giving counters.
Why do I counter? Because otherwise you have free control of the narrative and free reign to mischaracterise the discussion however suits you.
But as far as I am concerned the actual discussion is long gone and this is just about you setting up a narrative to the Devs that “the topic is so popular everyone must want this you need to act!!!” By keeping it bumped and reframing opponents positions to suit your own goals.
It’s a ruse and a scam you’re pulling. Four of you specifically. Your aim is to impress upon the fillable that there is no counter to you position and that everyone against you position is arguing for no changes (both false claims.)
Do it bliZz. Plz do it. Bring dual spec into tbc .
#some_change.
That’s exactly what I think of you and two others against dual spec.
Yeah, this whole question about heuristics came up again because of us. The fact is no one cares about heuristics except you. Search for the word and see if anyone brought it up except you and in response to you.
That’s not restating my case, it’s countering yours.
If noone counters you it creates the illusion of consensus and that there definitely is NOT.
Which then gets countered, and then you fall silent.
Hang on … Your position is essentially #nochanges given that you won’t countenance options like an arena spec or retail talents?
LoL my position has always been changes on a case by case basis.
Then why oppose an arena spec or retail spec? The only reason you’ve ever given is #nochanges.
Except it’s not, I wouldn’t care if they added arena spec, that however would not satisfy the reason why people want dual spec.
Retail spec obviously has a lot of other changes included far beyond dual spec.
But unlike you I can form a more nuanced opinion than #nochanges or #allchanges.
So #nochanges then?