Dual spec please

[Corpseknife-mankrik]

Tell me you dont know without saying you dont know - but you know.

GG, thanks for the laughs.

[Egwyn-arugal]

@Zipzo-atiesh

Are you sure I’m the one you should be mad at? I’m but a player who has zero power to influence what Blizz does and doesn’t add to their classic game.

That’s the most bad-faith statement I’ve seen in while. You know perfectly well loud minorities making noise on these forums have gotten their way time and time again.

Here lets have some examples

• HvH battlegrounds
• Nerfed honor gains
• Oce separated from NA for pvp queues
• Current-tier content nerfs during the tier
• Additional nerfs beyond what were proposed originally when people demanded more

Yeah players defs don’t have any influence! No need to post anything guys, no point.

[Egwyn-arugal]

Bro what is your reading comprehension lmao

I watched you slowly trying to twist Feywaifs posts into him saying he could predict when dual spec would be added. I actually gave you the benefit of the doubt and reread all the posts. You’re on some strong drugs m8

[Zipzo-atiesh]

Okay here’s the thing that Corpse is getting at, I’m just going to cut to the chase, all this passive aggression or even outright aggression is wasteful of energy …

He’s saying that at this point in the expansion, it takes an enormous suspension of disbelief to handwave Blizzard’s complete poker-face to this “issue”. They’ve not said anything, they’ve not added anything in the code that could be datamined that would even hint or foreshadow it’s coming inclusion, they’ve refused to answer Twitter questions on the matter. They’ve not spoken up in these gigantic fussy threads that have gone on for months.

Do you know what I believe in? Actions speak louder than words, and demonstrably what we have here is a glaring and obvious attempt to do nothing at all about the supposed “problem” of no dual spec…because they likely don’t see a problem at all and thus see no need to fix anything about it.

The naivety it requires to believe that, oh, they simply haven’t noticed the demand for it yet, they just aren’t aware, or simply haven’t gotten around to discussing it…I mean come on, cripes my dudes, do you actually believe this?

What corpse is saying is that it’s time to start reading the damn tea leaves here.

[Ziryus-pagle]

@Zipzo-atiesh

What corpse is saying is that it’s time to start reading the damn tea leaves here.

Yep, which is that blizzard has not said anything about dual spec in regards to dual spec in TBC Classic.

So at this point it’s purely a coin flip if it’ll be added or not, and we might as well keep expressing why we want dual spec.

[Zipzo-atiesh]

You’re free to discuss the hypothetical imaginary TBC w/ dual spec, but it’s all fantasy.

[Ziryus-pagle]

@Zipzo-atiesh

You’re free to disc uss the hypothetical imaginary TBC w/ dual spec, but it’s all fantasy.

Just like your #nochanges TBC Classic was hypothetical until it didn’t happen

[Alhiba-westfall]

@Redheadchild-kul-tiras

I don’t do BGs for hours on end on my weekdays.

This is impressive. You give people grief for wanting dual spec, yet you cry about time spent participating in PvP?

And you’ll tell people go go play retail if they don’t agree?!

Please tell me you at least see sime irony here…

[Alhiba-westfall]

@Corpseknife-mankrik

@Feywaif-atiesh

I don’t make predictions.

Yeah nice cop out.

Followed up with:

@Corpseknife-mankrik

I got all the evidence I just cant tell you when Ill have access to it.

Nice cop out.

[Egwyn-arugal]

I don’t think dual spec is likely. Then again, I didn’t think horde v horde bgs were likely either.

Let me tell you about the end of arena season 1. It was announced with less than a week before the given end date.

Let me tell you about the last day of season. With less than 24 hours’ notice, it was announced to end in Oceania 6 hours early. By way of an edited post.

Just because blizzard don’t say something, just because their communication is godawful and they don’t tell us what they’re considering, doesn’t mean it won’t happen.

[Corpseknife-mankrik]

@Alhiba-westfall

Nice cop out.

Thats me paraphrasing his argument numbskull. Thats literally what hes saying. He knows, he just cant prove he knows - it can only be sensed. lol.

Dude actually thinks he’s fooling people with that act.

@Egwyn-arugal

I watched you slowly trying to twist Feywaifs posts into him saying he could predict when dual spec would be added.

Yeah because I dont get swayed by con artists like Egwyn the human mage. Im forcing his hand and calling his bluff. The guy guaranteed dual specs and when I asked him to back his guarantee he back peddled like the shill troll he is.

@Zipzo-atiesh

Okay here’s the thing that Corpse is getting at

Im stating the plain and obvious truth and thats it. There’s no dual specs and the reasons got nothing to do with them simply not being here yet. These guys can say whatever they want to sell their story, they got nothing and they know it.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

@Alhiba-westfall

This is impressive. You give people grief for wanting dual spec, yet you cry about time spent participating in PvP?

I respec for pvp every week.

If I can do it, why do you need dual spec?

You want dual spec because your lazy.

I’m playing the game as it was intended to be played. Instead if demanding it be changed to fit a want that was born of laziness.

[Egwyn-arugal]

At no point did anyone in our camp assert that dual spec will or wont make its way into the game. You’ve just cooked your brain to the point you don’t understand what words mean.

You’re a perfect example of how i imagine every anti- dual speccer to be.

[Feywaif-atiesh]

@Corpseknife-mankrik

He knows, he just cant prove he knows - it can only be sensed.

What do you think I know? Quote it.

@Corpseknife-mankrik

The guy guaranteed dual specs

I did that? Please quote the sentence where I guaranteed dual specs.

What is so amazing to me is how often those against dual spec just outright lie.

@Corpseknife-mankrik

Feywaif practically guaranteed it,

That’s a complete fabrication. I have never even claimed I think it’s likely to be added. But you could easily prove you’re not a liar by simply quoting the post where I said that. The simple fact is you have no rational argument against dual spec so you lie about what people say to divert attention from that fact.

[Corpseknife-mankrik]

@Egwyn-arugal

At no point did anyone in our camp assert that dual spec will or wont make its way into the game. You’ve just cooked your brain to the point you don’t understand what words mean.

I mean, Feywaif practically guaranteed it, he just cant tell me when. So if they come in, he’s right and if they dont come in and he’s right. This has been the pro dual spec stance since the beginning - whatever the outcome theyre still correct no matter what.

This is an argument you resonate with. Sucks to be you I guess.

@Egwyn-arugal

You’re a perfect example of how i imagine every anti- dual speccer to be.

Not much of an insult coming from someone who thinks Feywaif has got it together. I couldnt be insulted if I tried.

[Feywaif-atiesh]

@Redheadchild-kul-tiras

I’m playing the game as it was intended to be played.

Are you claiming the original devs intended there be a boost and a paid mount in BC. That they intended the drums to be nerfed and the pally seals changed? That they intended there to be HvH bg’s? That they intended to ban input broadcasting software and hardware?

[Feywaif-atiesh]

@Zipzo-atiesh

but it’s all fantasy.

That’s exactly what people said in the threads asking for blizzard to do something about the low pop realms. Some said it’s a fantasy to think blizzard would give up the money from transfers by letting people transfer for free.

[Corpseknife-mankrik]

@Feywaif-atiesh

That’s a complete fabrication. I have never even claimed I think it’s likely to be added. But you could easily prove you’re not a liar by simply quoting the post where I said that.

When someone points out all the evidence suggests that theyre not likely to go in and you bald facedly refute them you are 100% implying that they are going in especially when you start comparing them to actual changes that actually went in.

Of course, when called out on it you just retreat back to “I never said that” - then contradict yourself by saying the ground is 100% fertile for them to go in - you just dont think so except for those times that you do.

[Egwyn-arugal]

@Corpseknife-mankrik

I mean, Feywaif practically guaranteed it, he just cant tell me when. So if they come in, he’s right and if they dont come in and he’s right.

Literally nowhere did he say that but sure.

Hats off to you though, you did manage to successfully waste a few minutes of my time looking for something that didnt exist.

Which is what you guys are all about. Wasting peoples’ time. That’s literally your agenda.

[Corpseknife-mankrik]

A: Dual specs are not coming to TBC.

B: HvH BGs refute this hypothesis. HvH change makes dual specs likely.

A: Okay so where are dual specs?

B: Why are you asking me I never said they were going in I just said you were wrong about them not going in hurrr hurrrr

Egwyn: Brilliant.