Dual spec please

Sorry, that’s flawed logic, something very common in your posts. I’m just pointing out the reasoning for your prediction is flawed. That doesn’t mean I’m predicting anything. I have no idea what changes blizzard will make next. I just don’t think you do either.

Well no. I just said you’re not smart enough to know when you don’t have enough information to make a prediction.

HvH bgs mean you can’t take blizzard’s silence to mean dual spec is NOT coming. Which is what he said. Not “likely”. Those are words you used yourself, and then decided he said.

Again, you have no reading comprehension and are cooked.

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Corpseknife. Bro. Show me a quote where he said he can predict if dual spec will come. Or implied it.

Show me a quote where he said dual spec is all but guaranteed. Or implied it.

You can’t lmao

Literally no one said this other than you LOL

I dedicated a whole post to the fact that you dont know so thanks for agreeing with me.

So maybe now you can see the futility and contradiction within admitting you have no clue about what Blizz is gonna do while simultaneously arguing with posters noting a real outcome you already acknowledged as a real possibility (no dual specs) and saying they cant think that way. It implies you do know something. Pick a side, you cant have both.

So when someone says I dont think dual specs are likely given the facts of the matter you would say ‘Im not really sure, I dont know what Blizz is gonna do’ not ‘I dont know so by extension neither do you’

What we do know is there are no dual specs in TBC and no credible reason for anyone to think they are coming. Theres nothing for you to disagree with there based on everything you said.

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Then you havent been paying attention but thats not a stunning revelation when we’re talking about you.

The fact of the matter is some empty blowhard is always saying that in every thread where people are asking for a change. And they have often been wrong. So I don’t believe you have any clue what’s going to happen.

If you acknowledge dual specs not coming to TBC as a real possibility then you cant fault anyone for saying it might be a possibility especially after you admit to not having a clue about what Blizz is gonna do. Troll harder.

It was only a couple of hours ago that you got schooled about the words ‘faithful creation’ being on TBCs main page which made me feel embarrassed for you so Im in firm agreement as far as your cluelessness goes.

Its on full display.

Im really grateful TBH because there was no better way to prove TBC didnt need dual specs then to listen to the people who promote and defend them. Blizz probably dont even bother with these DS mega threads anymore and I couldnt blame them.

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Of course I can’t fault you. But I can say you don’t have a clue and you’re a fool if you think you do.

They had boosts through recruit a friend.

They had store mounts through the physical card game “cash shop”

They intended drums to be useful but not overpowered drums got a BUFF in origional tbc because basically noone used them until the buff, and they buffed it to try and make it more even with other professions bonuses. The perception of drums being bad at the time caused them to buff it, but once it’s true value got figured out it was no longer an issue of it being to weak that people didn’t bother with it, but the opposite, the top guilds started requiring it and the professions combat power far outweighed the other professions.

Paladin seals saw similar issues but with faction choice being the deciding factor instead of professions.

The devs intended people to be able to play the game, having a wait time so long you couldn’t even get into a BG wasn’t intended. Nor was it intended that alliance were able to gear in pvp gear FAR faster than horde. If the original devs saw this happen to the degree we did in tbc classic, they would have done something. Idk if it would have been HvH, but something would have been done.

I honestly think they would have done this in vanilla if they had a reliable and cheap way of doing it, the technology to detect it didn’t exist back then. Part of why blizzard did things the way they did back then was technology constraints.

I’m not saying I like every change blizzard has made, but there are clear reasons they made them.

Heck, they even said themselves that they believe the origional devs would have done some of these changes if they saw the problems the devs saw coming into tbcc. Maybe not to the exact degree they did them, but the design intentions would have had the origional devs trying to address these issues. So to a degree, some of the changes are in a gray area of if the origional devs would have done that exact change.

But one thing we know the origional devs design intentions had a hard NO for was dual spec. We have quotes proving it. Yet you want to dismiss them with a hand wave to meet your agenda.

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Right and you don’t have anymore of a clue about what blizzard will do in regards to dual spec.

Blizzard has already been willing to make pretty major changes like same faction BG’s in TBC Classic. So your #nochanges position really doesn’t make sense at all. I give dual spec a 50/50 chance of happening at some point in TBC Classic, and as such it is well worth keeping the topic on the front page.

You acknowledge the no dual spec possibility and then tell the other people also acknowledging said possibility that they don’t know what the possibilities are.

Dumb doesnt even begin to describe it.

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at least do something reduce price flat 5g would be nice, 50g is just too much

You haven’t been paying attention.

Blizzard’s actions have made the entire argument, a strong one, that I’ve based my observation on that it won’t be added.

It’s not a guess or a coin flip, precious.

Do you realize how easy it is to make 50g in tbcc?

5g is killing easily achievable by killing 20 mobs. Let alone doing ONE daily quest.

50g isn’t a lot in tbcc. People just don’t want to play the game, so they find things to complain about.

The gold price isn’t the issue. It’s the entitlement of players these days compared to back then.

We know how to make gold FAR more efficiently compared to back then and there is plenty of guides showing you how. People not doing it is just them being lazy or entitled. Heck, some of the players are even claiming a paladin aoe farming strath is cheating. No pathing “exploits” or anything like that, just face tanking and aoe. UT to some even that is an exploiting cheat that needs to be nerfed, just because they want to nerf everyone to be at their minimum effort level, instead of actually putting effort and thought into how the farm.

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Why exactly?

What happened is immediately relevant to what will happen in this identical expansion experience.

For those of us who don’t like dual spec, why are we obligated to address the “pros” when we’re just fine with the game as it is today, with no dual spec?

Why don’t you address the cons?

It’s because people from your “camp” disingenuously act like there are no cons.

So why should have to address the pros when the game is already as we like it now? What good does it do us? Why would we go against our better interest?

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The only con that has any basis is how it might impact raids(and that even being a con is highly subjective, plenty of people like being able to switch roles during a raid), which guess what is easily solved with a cool down.

There’s enough cons for Blizzard that they haven’t added yet, or will have waited all the way until Sunwell to add it lol

The con on the blizzard side is they don’t want to spend time on it, that’s not a game play issue, blizzard is just stingy with developer time.

Maybe not but you sure the heck are crying about how horrible it would be and making a mountain out of a Molehill.

And trying to point out the fact that the blizzard back in 2007 is the same blizzard in 2021 if that This were the case.

Things would look a lot different than they are now Maybe worse maybe for the better probably for the better but that’s not the point.

Is not every single design philosophy they had back then was 100% good we’ve seen proof of this and and this is another news Flash for you something apparently you keep forgetting.

The blizzard Dev didn’t have a 100% plan for everything especially if you ever watch interviews with them they never even thought about the concept of oh yeah people are going to use drums and chain them.

They never thought about the idea oh yeah people can pick up enchanting and jewel crafting and get both of the benefits but they can drop one of the professions after and still keep that benefit not something they thought about.

the fact is that the very Little bad dual speck would do would do is one million percent outweighed by the good it would do.

plain and simple