Dual spec please

Just because I don’t want them to add dual spec and they haven’t doesn’t mean I think Blizzard never makes mistakes.

I’m extremely critical of Blizzard in very many contexts.

However I take what I can get. Where they get it right, they get it right. If they get it wrong, well then I evaluate how detrimental it is to my experience and stop playing or maybe I don’t.

That process is personal to me, irrelevant to you.

The only thing relevant here, is the chances of them adding dual spec, given the circumstances.

Let’s face it, objectively: it doesn’t look good.

To me that’s a win because I think it’s detrimental to the authenticity of the experience.

I don’t really see why I have to care about you calling me #nochanges. Like, I’m not sure how that impacts the discussion in any way that benefits your cause.

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I still put dual spec at 50/50 chance :stuck_out_tongue:

Which topic? The vast majority of topics on the cc forum get no blue response.

The ones with lots of likes and support tend to, and dual spec had that, but yet it sank and sank. OP gave up bumping it.

As long as you don’t say 100%, you still have room to not be wrong, so why do yourself the disservice of giving a probability that is so…obviously wrong and misleading to others hopeful?

The current TBC is significantly unenjoyable to me due to the direct effects of many of the large number of changes. The fact that you’re enjoying it means you’re okay with quite a signifcant number of these changes, which means in many respects you’re more pro-changes than me.

The fact that you then claim adding a change like dual spec would flip the switch from enjoy to not enjoy makes your opinion arbitrary at best, and completely f-you-got-mine at worst.

In fact, as a horde player who has justified hvh, and who i’m pretty sure actively benefits from it, you are a masssssive hypocrite.

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It’s completely irrelevant.

Well based on your insider knowledge from blizzard what are the odds?

Exactly 0%, according to him.

To me, blizzard having directly said “no, for this very specific reason”, at any point during original TBC, at the very least reduces it from 50/50 to 49/51, at a completely generous minimum.

Saying it’s 50/50 is to be downright maliciously optimistic to the detriment of people who actually care about the reality of dual specs chances.

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Well, in a world where Blizzard is either for the idea or not, I’m not sure dual spec getting in is based on a rough yes/no %.

They’ve either decided it’s something that they would implement or decided that it’s off limits. it’s either 100% or 0%, basically, and my bets would be on 0%, between those two figures

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Always missing tanks.

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Yeah, I actually notice quite a difference in time to form dungeon groups if I spec prot vs other. I’ll typically not even try to form a group if we don’t start with a tank now, and that’s on a pretty high population server.

I think Blizz would entertain certain ideas if they were good ideas with solid reasoning addressing a specific need or justifiable want in terms of authenticity. Its clear to anyone paying attention dual specs dont fit that mold regardless of any other changes they made that might contradict their overall intentions. The difference between those changes and dual specs is Blizz had good if not at least legitimate reasons for them - dual specs do not have that under any circumstance - no matter how many people want them.

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Doesn’t this undermine your own argument? It sounds like you’re agreeing the game is perfectly playable without dual spec, so long as you’re not in a sweaty hard-core guild.

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They don’t think things that far through.

They’re seeking the gotcha moments and nothing more.

No one is saying the game isn’t playable without dual spec. Just that it would improve the game for the vast majority of players. This game was perfectly playable before any changes were made, whether by blizzard or by the players. It was perfectly playable without the world buff meta, without the drum nerfs, without the chornobone, without the pally seal change etc.

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I’d argue the game should never be “improved” to cater to lazy players because that’s how the game became retail.

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I guess you’re getting tired of constantly losing the arguments. Most of the time now you just insult people.

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So how would you describe people who want to put no effort into something but want all the rewards?