Dual spec please

not that simple

Well now that we know your actual character name since you refuse to post on your main we can see that all your talk about being in some hardcore min max guild is actually complete BS.

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You need to look up the definition of “average.”

I don’t get why you keep posting this. No one cares. We were told over and over and over again that multiboxing would never be changed. We were shown link after link with the original devs saying it will never be changed. I was 100% sure that it wasn’t going to be changed. We still kept posting anyway. They called us whiners too. Didn’t stop us from continuing to argue against input broadcasting software. Then I was totally surprised when the devs made the exact change we were asking for. It was a bigger surprise for me than when they limited dungeons to 30 per day.

And you need to remember what I said

2-3 dailies. Not 3 dailies. 2-3. I gave a range.

Now that you actually got called out you are trying to back peddle because it shows all you have been doing is slander.

I have shown my main multiple times.

I haven’t been trying to hide it.

And my guild doesn’t post most of it’s logs.

Heck warcraft logs still shows me wearing beastlords, which I replaced over a month ago as I finally had 4p T5. My guild doesn’t post its logs. What is there was after it was on farm and we weren’t trying as hard.

But hay, feel free to act like you know the whole story from incomplete information. It’s what your best at.

Again

3rd party program being tolerated vs game design intentions.

2 very different things.

10 characters

Oh so now it’s no one cares when you have to back peddle after months of you calling someone a liar

YOU asked for the proof. You can’t say you don’t care now now that you have been proven to be the one slandering other people’s names because YOU asked for it.

Also this

Sounds to me like you don’t do those dailies, because you would know how long they take to do.

So I’ve proven I can do 3 daily quests in under 10 minutes. Yet you claim just the cooking and fishing can’t be done in under 10 minutes.

So who’s the lair here?

The person with video evidence of it being Done in under 10 minutes (let alone just under 8 for that specific set of dailies).

Or the person that has been screaming anyone who disagrees with him on anything is a liar.

This is literally the definition of a guild that wouldn’t force you to have 2 raiding dualspecs

in other words that entire argument about why dual spec would be bad doesn’t even apply to you.

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If it’s on farm they care less.

We also don’t post our logs usually, we have logs to see what’s happening, but we aren’t competing for fasted clear or big dick numbers.

The only logs you are seeing up there are from after content was on farm for over a month.

Or more likely what’s in the logs is entirely accurate, you’re in an average run of the mill dad guild and they don’t care in the least about how you spec, certainly not to the degree they would micro manage a second spec.

You just described a guild that doesn’t care about min maxxing.

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Your entire dps roster is grey/green/blue after apparently farming the content to late in the tier. Either people are really bad at their classes or still undergeared. Either way, you’re nothing even approaching a min/max guild. Go look up bunnings warehouse on arugal if you want to see what an actual min-max guild looks like. Its nothing like yours.

Its not relevant, stop playing their childish games with them. How you play is not evidence for dual specs for them. They got nothing so they’re just dragging you down into their morass of unqualified, quivering meat.

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It 100% is relevant since one of the key arguments for not having dual spec was “my guild minmaxes and will therefore force me to purchase dual spec and use both specs for pve”.

This argument straight up does not apply to him. Maybe to others (unlikely) but not to him.

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While I do agree, I also think it’s funny to point out that Mr “your a liar” is trying to sweep it under the rug as “no one cares” when I gave hard evidence he was full of the stuff that comes out of a bulls rear.

It’s amazing how he doesn’t want to discuss the topic of how long it takes to do the dailies now.

While the logs are not a good reflection of how my guild regularly does, I think it’s worth pointing this fact out that you seem to be ignoring.

Lower tier guilds try to imitate the min maxers and even if they don’t do it well, this can lead to guilds that are not “perfect parsers” to being “hardcore” about their requirements and still have sub par parses.

But hay, a picture is worth a thousand words, but it never tells the whole story. Same way logs work. Your getting a picture with logs.

Which goes back to something else, if your guild isn’t getting the results it should but is still requiring min maxxing it’s a bad guild and it’s your fault for being in it. If I’m getting dad guild results from min maxxing what’s the point?

And while a picture might only tell some of the story it can certainly tell us the basic skill of the artist :slight_smile:

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Yeah I get that but theres upper bounds and lower bounds. I cant think of a single dps player in my guild thats averaged below blue or purple and we’re suuuper casual (2 nights, 3-3.5 hours, we dont spam sappers, use agi/str scrolls, squawk, flamecaps or anything). There is no way an aspiring min max guild is going to be letting half their roster parse grey green under any circumstances.

If they are, why would you even bother staying with a guild that brings all the toxicity without any of the results?

EDIT: deleted my 2nd post because its basically just paraphrasing what I said in this one anyway.

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Yep, it mentioned killing lerker before the second submerg, which my guild has done multiple times.

But feel free to keep showing your superiority complex.