Do we have to go over WOTLK-prepatch and all major patches and hotfix bullet points leading up to dual specs release to verify this claim?
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No all you have to do is explain exactly which ones make dual spec incompatible with TBC.
http s://wowwiki-archive.fandom.c om/wiki/Patch_3.0.2_(undocumented_changes)
http s://wowwiki-archive.fandom.c om/wiki/Patch_3.0.2
http s://wowwiki-archive.fandom.co m/wiki/Patch_3.1.0
Thatâs a lot of changes. Maybe none of them alone drastically change how dual spec would effect the game, but all of them sure do.
So you canât explain why dual spec wouldnât work in TBC, got it.
It was explained 15 years ago. Same reason still applies. It reduces the impact of spec choice.
For the love of everything stop asking the same question.
Nobody ever said anything about whether it would âworkâ or not, weâre discussing if itâs the right thing to do given the context of what TBCC isâŚagain with the utter strawmans.
So far Blizzard has taken a pretty clear side for what they think.
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Other than the major class changes, talent tree changes, content being designed differently, specs losing identity, buff and debuff changes, changes to how healing tanking and dps work, spell rank changes, exc.
Nah nothing at all changed between tbc and worlk that would cause dual spec to effect the game differently /s
Right now explain how any of those changes make dual spec a problem in TBC.
Simple, tbc was intentionally designed with the design goals that said NO to dual spec.
All of these changes were made to transition the design goal intentions of tbc, to the design goal intentions of wotlk, which focused on bringing the player, not the class or spec. This devalued specific specs and made spec and class choice far less important and instead focused on roles of dps healer or tank.
Dual spec devalues spec choices as well as it makes the choice less impactful because you can flip a switch and change your mind.
The changes to the talent trees and the base classes also devalued spec choices because a lot of talent power got put into the base class instead.
Gear got changed to be more flexible for constant spec changing as well with healing and damage spell power just becoming spell power.
Spell scaling got changed to not care about downranking/discourage it.
All of these things are effected by talent choice and by extension would be effected by dual spec.
Dual spec was part of the equation of the design for wotlk. It wasnât part of it for tbc and will have a different effect on tbc, because every aspect of the game is different.
Think of it this way.
Dual spec is mentos.
If you you put it in water it doesnât do much.
If you put it in Coca-Cola it reacts a lot.
Tbc is the water. It doesnât have all those feel good changes of of sugar, syrup, carnonation, exc.
Wotlk is the Coca-Cola. It has all the convenience changes being added to it for sugar and taste good syrup that moves away from the rpg âinconveniencesâ that tbc is designed to have.
Dual spec in tbc will react differently than it did in wotlk, this is a fact. And we already know it has negative effects on the design intention goals of the game.
this guy just dont have the balls to say NO to a raid leader and its fraid of someone to âforceâ him to have a off spec âŚ
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So you still have no reason why dual spec would actually not work in TBC.
OK, I say no and get benched. I stay in the bench or have to find a new guild.
Sounds like itâs effecting me when I didnât want dual spec.
or the same old âa people will min max every fight(like we aready do anyways)â
thats a you problem, people want me to play ele at the start of tbc and guess what Im still enhance
Sounds more like you need to find guild that doesnât suck.
Anything would âworkâ in tbc. Doesnât mean itâs good for the game.
We could add titanforge to tbc. Doesnât mean it would be good for the game seeing as the design goal intentions of tbc had no intentions on gear being able to upgrade itself.
So you stll canât explain why dual spec would be bad in TBC, got it.
Good for you, it would effect a lot of people negatively though.
yeah cause one of the most hated systems in wow history equals to Dual spec
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It doesnât âworkâ for TBC because Blizzard said it wouldnât, itâs not that complicated.
Itâs not like dual spec canât logically or technically be added to TBC, itâs just not meant to be in TBC.
You donât understand anything being plainly told to you.
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because you said so ? or some dev back in 2007 said so ?