Dual spec please

How can that be the case given all the private servers out there running the original client?

Beats me, like I said, it’s just what I’ve heard/read, I’m not really sure just how much of it is gossip and how much of it is truth.

Would it surprise me if it was the truth? No, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it was just pure gossip either.

I mean, companies don’t just “lose” source code lol, there’s a thing called version control and repositories


It’s literally their most valuable asset, as well


I personally don’t care about the gold cost at all. I care about modifying my UI whenever someone asks me to flex into a role, which shouldn’t be necessary - and Blizzard decided that it wasn’t necessary as they made improvements to player QOL in wrath.

That was part of it, but they also wanted all the improvements they’d made and all the bnet integration of the more modern version. So they basically started with legion and made it into classic.

Another lie. It’s a statement given mid-late TBC in response to whining for flexible respeccing.

You have no evidence of this. If anything the facts argue against this. Another lie.

The blue tells you the exact gameplay reason I am against it.

You are a joke. You aren’t getting dual spec. Deal with it.

Yeah I’m so sorry I don’t want Blizzard to ruin the product I like with features that don’t belong, my most gracious apologies.

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on successful pservers due to having dual spec, they all charged like 1 -5k gold for players to “enable” dual spec so its not like its free and its still serving the purpose as a “gold sink” as per its original design, confirmed by blizzard devs.

Oh, I’m weird, I just use the default Blizzard UI, and my bars pretty much stay the same regardless of the spec I play. Like my interrupt is always Alt-1 so UI changes don’t bug me as much. I’d understand it though if people don’t wanna have their UI messed up whenever they need/want to change roles.

This is the actual reason. The Shadowlands client has 10 years of optimization, bugfixes, UI improvements, and yeah integration with external systems like Bnet and messenger etc.

#dualspecplz

Sure, like I said it would be worth it for me to pay gold for the capability to have spec profiles built into the client.

No it doesn’t it just gives some vague design goal that didn’t actually work out well in practice. So yeah tht also goes back to not taking a random blue post as infallible gospel, when they actually make a lot of mistakes.

Which is of course why they changed position on dual spec during TBC.

I don’t care what side of the fence you sit on, but your way of arguing the subject is toxic and degenerate though. Hence the cbf

My first introduction to people on your side of the argument was coming in here and saying “yeah this would be good, because then my mate can tank dungeons for us without us needing to fork out the 100G” and immediately getting hit with “LIAR! anyone who says they’d use dual spec to spec tank is LYING! It’s a FALLACY!”

The facts don’t match up to this assumption.

They literally had to rebuild classic from scratch off the Legion client because they literally lost all of the data.

It’s not crazy to think that this applies to stuff as early as TBC too.

I only mirror that of who I’m arguing with, tbh.

If you were an actually reasonable person in discussion over something you feel passionate about, I very likely wouldn’t feel the need to give you attitude, but a’las, you’re nothing but attitude ever since you zoned in to this conversation.

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Well no as usual you are wrong, they didn’t have the early vanilla code. They did have a working reference for 1.12 which i’m sure played into why we got 1.12 although they had plenty of other reasons for that too.

heh, maybe I should’ve said “competent companies”.

You know what’s funny, the company I worked at between 2010 and 2019 released the first version of its software in 2005, not long after wow’s 1.0 release. I could literally go back and see the very first commit (subversion xD, before it all got converted to git) - and of course every single change made since then.

The mind boggles to think that it’s not even possible for Blizzard to even do that.

Lol, we weren’t the ones that started the “You’re a liar” fad in this discussion, all this shows is you haven’t been around long enough.

I’m not wrong because that’s literally what I said.

Correct, +adjustments.

We also know they had a working build for 2.4.3.

None of this is really relevant, though.

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We know exactly how dual spec would affect BC. You could buy dual spec at 40. I and probably millions others played through BC with dual spec. There was nothing about BC that using dual spec was game breaking. It was just the same game but you could switch specs a little bit easier.