Dual spec please

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Nah 5-6 hours raiding, 2ish hours doing dailies and then 2 hours split between pvp and alts.

It’s believable, a lot of people play that amount. However what it does show is he has zero comprehension why people want dual spec. He’s playing a pure dps so 1 spec is perfectly fine for about 8ish hours of his week, alts dual spec doesn’t matter, and he’s obviously not on a serious arena team so his spec also doesn’t matter for what little pvp he does do.

So yeah he’s just a whining about something that really really doesn’t even impact him with no comprehension of why it would be a big help to other people with different play styles.

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667

It’s so cute you don’t understand gold directly translates into time.

But of course not because you don’t do anything in your gameplay that would even use dual spec given how little you actually play.

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668

O and I are the keys next to each other on the keyboard. And both quite and quote are properly spelled words, I don’t notice every mistake. This isn’t an English class Mr Grammer police.

Either way your entire paragraph was saying you didn’t like tbc. And I told you of you didn’t like it then don’t play it.

Your the one having a reading comprehension issue here…

669

From the person who has insulted those who disagree with him constantly. Your argument here is my side and insult your side as often as we like and never get called out but if we respond in kind we are somehow wrong. You make a pretense of running for the fainting couch every time I treat you like you treat others but it’s just another of your lies.

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670

That literally how the math works out based on your stated play time and activities.

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671

He’s claimed he is constantly helping friends with dungeons and leveling, because he’s the greatest hunter in the game. He gets so many invites from tanks he can’t do them all, and then without him they have to pug. He makes so many friends because he farms so much and just gives stuff away. He does that so much that he was recruited to a high end guild that benched him for a month and just used him for the free stuff he was giving away. Until he realized it and quit the guild. He has all the Bis fishing gear. All those things require more than 10 hours a week. He’s lying about doing all that or lying about playing 10 hours a week

672

Oh I’m sure he’s lying about all of it, he’s consistently shown he has not idea how the game actually works, it’s just entertaining him calling him out on obvious lies.

673

My entire paragraph said I didn’t like retail, The number of times I used the word retail should have been a clue. But that would require you read the paragraph and understand it.

674

It’s so cure you don’t understand how to play the AH to turn gold I to more gold.

You don’t have to farm all the gold as raw gold.

When I do the fishing and cooking dailies I get fish and meat (if I chose the meat crates) from them (I know hard to understand) and those sell on the AH (for what I don’t give to my guild)

Many people put stuff on the AH for stupid amounts, some stupidly overpriced, some stupidly underpriced (as in very easy to make a profit off of, even if I just vendor it)
I win items through buyouts and bids. I have won items worth hundreds of gold on a bid far under what they will easily sell for, then I resell it. It’s called a living market. Buy low sell higher. You can chose to try to compete, or just make a decent profit by still selling far under the competition.

For example small eggs are selling very high and very well for the holidays. I bought them for cheap the last few months and have been selling them for a good profit, while still going far under the people trying to sell them for 1g per egg. (I sold all of mine for about 40s per, but they insta try sold, I bought most of them for under 10s per through bids)

I turned maybe 100g worth of gold into about 400g buy PLANNING ahead of the market market buying low… and that’s just on small eggs…

I have the addon TSM, and have many items saved on a shopping list on the addon and it will tell me if the buyout or bid of the item is under a certain value when I use it. And if it is, I buy/bid and resell for a profit.

I do the dailies as well because they are easy gold, I don’t do every daily every day, depends on my mood of what I want to do, what I have time for, my current gold amount exc.

I also have a chest run route that I can do while mining and mote cloud collecting that yields plenty of additional gold/consumes when I am farming (and no I’m not sharing that route, but it doesn’t focus on just one zone, that’s the only hint I’m giving, lol) and that route takes about 20-30 minutes to do but hits a lot of common spawn spots. And usually yields a few primary, a few stacks of ore, and at least 20 potions between mana and healing.

Maybe you need to learn to play more effectively? Because I can get all my needed farming for consumes and respecs done in the week apparently far less time than it takes you, and I still raid and pvp.

I had about 15k gold saved up when naxx came out (naxx ate most of my gold saving, but thats another topic altogether and it wasn’t gdkp, those consumes were expensive) in classic from playing the AH and selling tribute buffs. Gold is even easier to get in tbcc and as a hunter my weekly consumes cost is far lower than most other raiders even when progressing (I don’t use flasks, I use elixirs and just don’t die very often, even when we do wipe)

Before the nerfs I got through an SSC and KT using an average10 elixirs total (2 per use) and that’s about 60g per week. Add in the weapon oil/stone, potions, scrolls, arrows, repairs and food buffs, and I go through about 250-300g per raid, not including the gold I get back from the raid in raw gold. Which covers about 150-200g of the costs doing 2 dailies a day all week yields just about 100g.

So to break even on raid costs I don’t need to farm much at all outside of 2 dailies a day. The playing the AH usually supplies all the gold I need to change specs to pvp and change back to raid.

I only really need to farm when I get new gear that needs enchants/gems or I had a bad week on the AH and still want to do all my pvp time.

Learn to use your time better is the best advise I can give you.

675

Oh look now he’s an AH mogul too.

The max 2 hours you play not raiding/dailies must be so so hard to cover you’d have to be a regular financial genius of the highest order to support it with the AH.

676

You can find common trends if you look for them.

I’ll continue with the small eggs.

They have jumped in price for the Christmas event EVERY YEAR since it was introduced and it still does this in retail. It also yields snowballs for durt cheap toward the end that will sell for much more come July-ish if you are willing to wait. This has been a common trend SINCE THE EVENT ENTERED THE GAME YEARS AGO.

Just like consumables are typically cheaper on non common raid days like Thursday and early Monday. And you can win them with birds to save even more gold.

I’m not some AH guru, I just paid enough attention to make a profit on it.

Just like for the next few weeks, elixirs and flasks will go down in price as less people use then to clear the now heavily nerfed content, but next phase they will jump in price again. That’s not a guru level knowledge, it’s simply supply and demand. I expect the price drop in about 2 weeks, because this week people saw how easy it was, next week they will become comfortable with the easier raids, and the week after that many guilds will be more lenient on their consumes requirements likely only requiring them for Kael and vashj.

Sorry for understanding player behavior, and how it effects supply and demand? We have seen it for every raid tier in classic, once MC was comfortably on farm consumes were not nearly as enforced by the majority of guilds, same for BWL, AQ, naxx was the only exception to this rule in most cases and we even saw Kara have similar drop off after a few weeks of what the average raid required.

Again, I’m not a guru, I’m just actually paying attention.

677

You get about 5 or 6 of maybe 2 kinds of meat or fish per crate or barrel. Not much to sell even if you never use any yourself or never give any away. It won’t be enough to pay for even one respec a week with the prices on my server. I do the cooking quest and barely get enough golden darter to make fish sticks for + heals for my own use. But I guess you’re such a great hunter you never have to use the mudfish or warp flesh for the agility buff. I guess your guild, while being so hard core they’re going to require every raid member to have two raid specs, but they don’t care if you don’t bring agility or buff food to the raid.

You’re so full of bs it’s funny.

678

Apparently you aren’t if you don’t understand why others who have a different play style than you want dual spec.

679

We aren’t getting dual spec. The amount of time people have spent here on this forum arguing about it, they could easily afford to respec if they used that time in game.
Although it is quite funny that after all this time it’s still the same half a dozen people arguing about it. The sheer amount of time collectively you guys have spent arguing about dual spec is just insane.

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680

One of the key features of WoW is that it has a lot of down time.

681

I farmed (and bought dirt cheap while everyone was leveling fishing) over 300 mudfish and stock piled it. Between keeping what I get from the dailies in terms of mudfish I’m still over 200. The supply has gone down, but keep in mind mudfish on the AH are far cheaper than fish sticks, and because I keep the cheaper ones to use and sell (or give depending on if a guildy asks for some) of the higher priced fish I make a good profit.

I could sell 1 fish stick for about 1g on my realm, a mudfish is about 30s per. So I could sell 1 fish, and get enough gold for 2 of my fish.

You don’t seem to understand basic math here.

Even if I only get 5 fish a day and they average 50s for selling them, that’s 35 fish a week that sell for about 17g. That’s not including what I fished up while doing the fishing daily, the raw gold gotten from doing the fishing and cooking daily, the chance at the vendor items from the fishing daily, and anything I gathered from mining, could, and kills while doing them.

Also, it’s not uncommon for me to find the crap fish on the AH being sold for less than what it sells to the vendor for after cooking it.

I don’t count those afk cooking (and bandages and other craftables) sessions that I buy craft and vendor as game time because I am afk during it.

I have bought 500 stacks of the garbage fish from the AH before cooked them and vendors them for a 50%+ profit before. I don’t count that afk crafting session as me playing the game.

I’ve done the same with bandages. If you see neatherweave for under 15s per on the AH you can buy them, turn them into heavy bandages and vendor then for 30s per (takes 2 cloth, so under 15s per is a profit) I have found them on the AH for 8s before, I win bids on them as well to do this.

Some gems, heck I find gear on the AH under their vendor value before.

2 weeks ago I bought a fist weapon on the AH for 5g. Sold to the vendor for 5g and 70ish silver.

I’ve bought the old spell tomes from that vendor for 1-10g for cheaper than AH value and vendored them.

Again, learn to use your time more efficiently, and I don’t confine sider my afk crafting time sessions as play time.

682

But afk crafting time is still time you have to be in the game and not doing something else.

683

If you got twice that you’d get 34 gold a week and didn’t use or give any away you’d get 34 gold

And you’re claiming you’re giving some away.

684

He’s lying and we proved it. So now he’s going to redefine what “play time” is. Most of us measure it from time logged in to time logged out. For him crafting, I guess time spent on the AH, running to the dungeon, any time not spent shooting an arrow isn’t play time. He’s the biggest bs-er on the forums.

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685

Apparently time spent respeccing and farming gold also isn’t time spent playing the game since it magically just happens.

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