People will always complain. For most of us only waiting an hour for a group felt like a great improvement. If you don’t think most dps waited much longer for a group than a hour you couldn’t have been pugging much
Or I am not a dps’er? Logic is hard, I know.
Then you really have no idea what experience the dps had before and after dual spec was added. Yet you’re making claims it didn’t help. If my only character was my holy priest I wouldn’t know much about the dps experience either. But then I wouldn’t claim to.
I pug a lot, made a lot of friends that way and have repeat tanks and healers because of it.
If you find yourself not being invited back by tanks and healers, there’s a reason for it.
You having issues getting groups might just be because of yourself.
You can keep pushing that line and maybe some people will believe it but I knew you were bullshting when you claimed you had so many tank friends they were begging you for groups. And when you were too busy to join those tanks had to pug. Like you were those tanks only dps friend.
the whole world really revolves around you doesn’t it.
I don’t believe that either. The funniest thing is you’re posting all this brag on a level 10 retail character
The battleground change and boosting proved they dont give a fk about changes. Might as well add every Quality of life change in the book.
theres so many solutions to this problem and were not getting any its dumb lol.
dual spec is one
just add a respec button to my talent window so i dont have to go back to the trainer every time is another
or just reduce the cost of respecs.
im not even certain which id prefer tbh. i play ret and prot frequently so dual spec seems like a good solution, but i also have a full holy set collecting dust id like to play where dual spec wouldnt really help me much
Hey Activis- I mean Blizzard, while you’re at it, throw back in the barbers too. I want to change my toon’s hair !
You not believing it isn’t my concern. I know what I’ve done, I shared my experiences to help others be able to get tanks easier. If you chose to just cry about the lack of tanks instead of investing in friendships to help yourself have more tanks and healers wanting to group with you, that’s on you. But I haven’t had any shortage of tanks or healers. Because I made friends. Maybe it’s a personal problem as to why you can’t find tanks?
Maybe your a bad healer? Or when your dpsing you don’t know how to use your utility? Or maybe your the GoGoGo guy rushing the group and tanks don’t like your back seat driving them?
I don’t know why you have issues getting tanks, but it’s likely a personal problem with you treating this game like retail. Not talking to people, not making friends, and just having the wrong mindset and attitude in general.
I’m not going to do it for you but it is common knowledge. Google GhostCrawler blue comments and “bring the player not the class”.
You can also do a line be line comparison of the pre WoTLK patch notes to see how that design change was implemented. As an example interrupts were given to each class and made baseline in most cases. There were other more extensive changes to remove spec niches as well.
Yes it was. But there’s a reason it wasn’t actually delivered in TBC. It goes back to this whole “bring the player not the class thing”. I remember it clearly at the time and recall GhostCrawler talking about the balance implications of introducing dual spec in TBC without wider class balance changes and that it would have to wait for the expansion. I’ve done a quick search for that interview and haven’t found it but if I do I’ll link it. I was a big fan of Dual spec at the time so I remember it pretty clearly.
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rotflol Even if your dubious claims about how great you are at making friends and teaching tanks how to tank were true this doesn’t solve a server wide problem. Frankly I wonder why you never taught those tanks how to make friends so that when you’re too busy to dps for them they wouldn’t have to pug. But people aren’t very smart. Maybe there are still a couple who believe your bs
I’m a holy priest. I don’t have a problem getting a group. I’m 67 and almost all that xp is from dungeon runs. I’ve done less than half the quests in Hellfire. Unlike you I care about more than myself. I care about a server wide lack of tanks and healers and even though It benefits me I’d like to see it improved for the good of the game and dps players.
I’d say that most of what he says is… dubious at best:
127 runs to get a 25% drop rate item.
(1-(1-(0.75^127)))*100 = 1.3576269507870056608242826312256e-14
or
0.000000000000013576269507870056608242826312256
or
1 in 7,365,793,669,758,999 odds of that outcome happening. 1 in 7.3 Quadrillion.
Or you can just call it a statistical impossibility.
That’s not even close to the only bizarre claim he’s made, but this should show you what you’re arguing with.
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Bogus claim.
Provide a citation for it. If it was said by Ghostcrawler, it would exist on the internet.
Nothing of the sort here.
Luck has never been my friend on drops. It took me killing over 300 of the elite dwarves for Herbert’s sword from the torrent mill quests to get it to drop, and that’s 10% chance I believe.
I have always had bad luck on loot in video games. But my life isn’t your life, if you don’t want to believe me that’s fine.
Actually, I totally can, because I do remember the legions of brainless mouth breathers screaming on the forums about hour long queues to get a tank. Why do I remember? Because I take great glee in dps’ers losing whatever little of their minds are left. And every single time a genius like you came here and said on how change XYZ would totally solve the problem, people who know better and have more mmo experience, such as myself, simply told you the sad truth: it won’t change anything. The people who group with guildies and friends will still do and won’t subject themselves second rate puggers like you. And, behold, every single time something was changed or added, the dps’ers still screamed their heads off about queues. Sure, now they had a neat little addition that allowed them to not have to do anything to find a group (other than click a button), but they still waited a long time.
We will continue to have this discussion about tank queues and every time reality and experience will prove people like you wrong. Every single time.
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I have never once claimed dual spec would “solve” the problem. It’s hilariously funny when someone who hasn’t got the reading comprehension of a third grader spends his whole post insulting other people’s intelligence. It’s a common problem. Most stupid people aren’t smart enough to realize how stupid they are.
I care about the health of the game over the convenience of dual spec.
Your the one arguing to make a change that drastically changes how people play the game.
Tbc is designed for bring the class/spec where dual spec wasn’t a thing. The class design of bring the player not the class came in wrath class design, which is where dual spec became a thing.
Dual spec worked with a game designed around bringing the player and not caring about the class. It causes a lot of issues when the game is designed around bringing X spec because it has a stun, or Y spec because it has an aoe fear for adds, or a Z spec because it’s designed to pump aoe damage with reduced aggro risk (look at seed warlock spec for an example).
Being able to change from being a single target threat to an aoe threat at the drop of a dime is an issue with raid balance. Being able to change from a strong dps to a strong healer invalidates the hybrid specs to the point of there being 0 reason to bring them. Being able to have a warrior change from prot to fury makes Feral druids lose one of their values of being a decent dps and good tank without having to change anything for fights that might need one more, or one less tank. Class design of tbc does not support dual spec anywhere near how wrath design on classes does. The real reason your arguing to have dual spec is because you don’t want to play the game to get gold to respec.
You have a personal agenda here and your trying to ruin tbc classic to get it done.
You have stated it would help the tank shortage, which is claiming the change will be impactful enough to make a noticeable difference. Yet history shows it doesn’t.
You want an easier time getting into groups? MAKE FRIENDS. Stop playing with the anti social mindset of retail and start TALKING to people.
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I simply don’t care about how it affects the minority of players who min/max everything. Blizzard has already catered to the min/max raiders with the drum nerf. If they’re not capable of saying no to the guild leader that tries to force them to have two raid specs they need to grow a backbone or join a casual guild.
What would a level 10 retail player know about anything in this game.
Nah, you’re so enveloped in your fiction that you don’t even realize the claims you’re making are impossible.
It’s not a case of me believing you or not. It’s a fact that the things you claim never happened. They never occurred; it’s not a believe or don’t believe situation.