Dual spec is a detriment to WoW and your bag space.
You can leave your other set in the bank without dual spec.
Save more room for potions and elixirs and trash drops.
Encourages you to farm and trade items for gold to keep the economy going.
People aren’t confused if your a dps one day or tank the next or even healer, and refer to you by spec.
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People can do what ever they want. I dont get bent out of shape over it. But I don’t have to join them. The min/max wb culture can play how they want but I never did. The paid boosters can make their gold and the rest can sit afk while the mage makes xp for them. But I never paid for or charged for a dungeon run. Last night I watched a group look for a healer for BRD for an hour. I decided to heal their run. A few days earlier it was a ST run. There’s a healer shortage on my server and I’m not the type of person to take advantage of that. If fact I’m more likely to do a low run that gives me no xp. Again, people can do what ever they want, tanks can change, mages can get paid to boost. I just won’t.
Your not stuck you pay a gold fee to change them
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You aren’t taking advantage of anyone. You had to pay 100 gold to help people, that was you giving away 100 gold.
Asking for gold to cover your respec costs is not taking advantage of the people who need you to do something for them.
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Play how ever you want. I’m not trying to tell you how you should play the game or criticizing you for your choices
Well if you had read the OP you might have understood.
And we’re arguing it won’t solve anything, only create a new problem of clueless DPS masquerading as tanks just to get into groups faster… but you would know that, had you bothered to read my entire post.
And we’re not even getting into the fact that dual spec would change the meta, but you’ve obviously stopped reading by now anyways so why bother? If you really wanted to make an informed argument, you’d read one of the very very many threads that have already been made on the topic.
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God just shut up already. Everybody knows dualspec was introduced in wotlk, you just have nothing better to do than talk to yourself and state the obvious.
Imagine comparing dual spec (introduced in wotlk) to the garbage that is retail (activision) wow.
That’s a cool story, though in a tbc panel blizz said they’re open for changes, unlike classic i can see this being added like it should tbh.
You can afford 50g. That’s 5 quest hand ins.
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Forums is a circle jerk cesspool dude, it should be nuked from space…
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So you are acknowledging that dual spec would increase the number of dps tanking. That’s all I claim. I would rather have a clueless dps masquerading as a tank than not find a tank at all and not get a group. This is one of the reasons I leveled holy. So I have the extra healing power and can often compensate for bad tanks or bad dps that make mistakes. I get that you’d rather not find a group at all than do a run with a less than perfect tank but I think most people would rather struggle along with a bad tank than not go at all.
If I’ve posted in a thread I’ve read every post in that thread from start to finish. I don’t always respond to everything in a post point by point. I just pick one or two points to respond to and stop there. I attempt to be somewhat concise because I think most people skip posts that are too long
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A quick look outside of these forums would show that people would want dual spec for tbc
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… you obviously have nothing better to do then whine in the TBC classic forums asking for a feature, early.
Maybe you should spend some time farming gold or being nice to tanks and healers so you don’t have to worry so much about the lack of either.
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I never pretended it wouldn’t add more ‘tanks’ to the pool, I’m saying you’re trading one problem for another, so I hardly call this a solution. And this ‘solution’ comes with baggage that I’m not ok with, hence my opposition to Dual Spec.
I’ve mentioned in every single thread about this that a much better solution is to either join an active guild or make friends with the tanks you meet on your PuGing adventures, but that’s not the solution people want, so it always gets ignored.
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To be honest, I think dual spec is a good addition to be added to TBC. I think one of the main issues with Dual spec was the combined addition of the LFG finder, which pulled multiple people from the various roles needed in a dungeon or raid, from multiple servers. The current state of TBC classic, Wow classic, and even WotLK classic when it drops, will all be better without the LFG finder. Dual spec would have its uses, because we are all playing together in the same servers for our dungeons and raids, which means it helps the actual population of the server benefit and that is more beneficial to the game than having random people on a server you don’t play on.
My two favorite characters are druid and paladin, both of which can fill any role. I never did any bear tanking prior to this run of TBCC, and I actually enjoy the challenge of it, however my raid spec is Boomkin. So when I’m running dungeons in search of Boomkin upgrades, I do so as a DPS, because it feels appropriate to need on DPS gear as an actual DPS. When I play as Bear, I need on tank gear. I dont have a lot of gold, because i recently got back in to this game after stopping in cata, currently I have maybe 500 gold to my name, and if i didnt roll a druid I wouldnt even have the ability to fly yet. I’ve probably spent over 300g over the past few weeks respeccing back and forth, so for me, I would love dual spec.
I don’t think this is a feature that will actually make or break this game, but for the people that would actually use it for its intended purposes, it would be a welcome addition. Some may use it for PVE/PVP, some may use it to switch to their off spec for some grinding, and some probably wont even use it at all. Not every single person that has a tanking class is going to all of a sudden start tanking because of dual spec, maybe 10%. But for those of us that actually enjoy both roles and want to play them, it does suck having to dish out 100g every time.
First off almost no one claims dual spec is the “solution.” Only that it would make it less severe. I think we’re finally getting somewhere. At least you admit the obvious, dual spec will increase the number of tanks. we might even agree that many of them won’t be very good at it, inexperienced and unskilled. I get that getting more tanks is a bad thing for you if they are not the best, but for the people who can’t find a group at all because they can’t find any tank, good or bad, I’m sure most of them would rather struggle along with a bad tank.
I’m in a good guild and we often do guild runs. But there’s not enough of them. If there is a shortage of tanks and healers joining a good guild or making friends with tanks met on pugs doesn’t alleviate the problem server wide. It’s not a better solution it doesn’t change the problem for the server at all. It just makes it marginally better for those good at it and worse for those less good at it.
Look, if there are 10 tanks and 100 people looking for a group 60 of them aren’t going to run a dungeon. You’re suggesting ways to be one of the 40 winners that get a group. But with out an increase in the number of tanks 60 people are still not going to get a dungeon run. And once again I’d bet most of those 60 people would rather struggle along with a weak or inexperienced tank than not do a dungeon at all.
How is it that that is acceptable but paying 50 gold to change how you play the game isn’t?
So you don’t want to have to pay gold to switch between two different play styles.
You can reroll, but you don’t want to for whatever reason.
You could group up with other people to accomplish things in game, but you don’t want to for whatever reason.
You could ask people who need you for another role to help you out with the respec costs, but you don’t want to for whatever reason.
You could stay in one role and swap gear and be adequate for either, but you don’t want to for whatever reason.
You could use an in game profession to make gold to pay for respecs, but you don’t want to for whatever reason.
I mean… when you’re right… you’re right.